Excargodog

You are wrong.
Ask yourself this question: Why are there regionals?

The answer is there are regionals because they make money. Who do they make money for? Well, the majors, obviously. If they weren’t a money maker, why would the major even hire them to fly pax? Because it damn sure isn’t the regional selling the ticket. The AA wholly owned s contribute substantially to AAs bottom line. So do you think AA wants these guys to move up to the major as soon as humanly possible? So they can then pay them MORE and then have to go find and train a replacement to keep the regional functioning? Or would they rather hire someone else - away from their competition, so THE COMPETITION incurs that expense. And it isn’t just AA. Look at Republic. Who owns it? When it emerged from bankruptcy in 2017 61% of the shares were held by United, Delta, and American. Who owns Horizon? Alaska, that’s who. Who owns Endeavor? Delta. Skywest and Mesa are the outliers.

if major airline management didn’t benefit from the regionals, regionals would have disappeared long ago. And the majors are just as happy to keep their regional pilots on the far cheaper pay scale just as long as possible.

godsnotapilot

Just insane that some you think this might be going on. It always seems to be the APD’s fault and never the pilot’s when there’s a failure. Don’t give them anything to fail you on! Do the work, study, all of the information is there.

dera

Damn, here is the first one in history of aviation who has done a perfect checkride.

DarkSideMoon

Saying it’s possible some regionals are intentionally failing people does not mean it’s never the pilots fault for a failure. No one is saying that.

No one will ever have a perfect checkride. If an examiner wants, I guarantee you they could dig until they find something to fail you on. Depending on how much leeway you have with the checkride is set up, you can easily create a Kobayashi Maru scenario. Kill an engine 49 miles from a mountain airport hard IFR with a short contaminated runway and only a localizer approach and 51 miles from a clear international airport. They go to the mountain, ding them for not exercising their command authority and going to the better runways. They go to the big airport? Ding them for bypassing a suitable airport.

Luckily no one I’ve ever run into has this attitude, but when one person has been doing checkrides for a decade and has 20,000 hours in the airplane, and the other is a new hire, there is going to be cracks in their armor even if the new hire studied above and beyond what is expected.

arbalist1

Or the training department could do something like this: Make upgrade LOE to an airport you don't service and attempt a complex visual you've never seen in real life. Combined with the very poor graphics/visuals of the sim and an emergency...
First upgrade round was rumored to have failed about 90%.

272922

At my current shop (PSA) this was a byproduct of the grift wrapped Christmas present (ratified 12/17) that management got out of a prior MEC Chair called Senior Manning. Rather than use a shortage of Captains as leverage to increase pay said MEC Chair thought it was his job to save the company by allowing the Company to take FOs from the top of the list and turn them into Captains because the company was too scared to do it from the bottom of the list, as our contract allowed at the time (at least if you squinted and read between the lines of the JRM section). No doubt there were some that should've never been put in that position, to say nothing of all the life plans that were upended by the company with little regard. It would've been way better to just put a 2 year requirement in the left seat to flow, but certain VPs had trained ALPA how to give back rubs at the time.

It's not about gate space. There's plenty of gates all over the system that will accommodate RJs and not narrow bodies. Ultimately regional feed is about delivering a plethora of departures and arrivals to second tier markets that the LCCs can't touch. I've seen Allegiant flights cancel at the gate and the agents just offer everyone a refund as their only option. If you were on DAL, UAL, or AA, any one of them has multiple hubs they can route you though on multiple departures.

There certainly is a cost structure advantage to FFD flying, but ultimately we're going to see a lot more of it brought in house, either by Group 1 flying (DAL is already doing this with the 717 and 220), and ultimately what was once considered RJs. The never several years are going to be very interesting.

IamEssential

Actually in this industry it is assumed it is the pilot's fault, always. Not sure what you are rambling about, just ask yourself what percentage of check-rides have been reversed?

Aquaticus

There are multiple factors leading to high failure rates. Non-AQP programs, first time 121 training, a few gung ho examiners "keeping the standards up", and no incentive for the company to fix the problem due to slower attrition. I know Spirit tripped up a few people when their training was pretty poor years ago. The classes had 1 or 2 from each class fail the oral and then a checkride after 4 sims which failed another 1 or 2. Some groups had 10-20% of the class with failures by the end. Prior to AQP that really wasn't out of the ordinary at most regional airlines where people were seeing their first 121 program but to see it at a bigger airline was odd.

Crown

PSP and whatnot?

mdcny

Yes - GoJet