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Originally Posted by Crown (Post 3306456)

a few years ago, there was some male Karen who was going through pilots Instagram feeds, looking for pictures that were taken in flight and reporting them to the FAA. And of course, these pilots were investigated.

That's how my buddy got fired. Although the probable narc was junior to my buddy so his motive may have been seniority.

Found this the other day, thought it was as interesting as it was convoluted.

Obviously, company policy can trump all of this.

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Originally Posted by Crown (Post 3306456)

Point is, do not be stupid up there. It's one thing to read "company material" or even use your disconnected phone to catch up on company material. But if anything gets dorked up, you can bet the FAA and your company will ask for your phone immediately to make sure you weren't on the WiFi.

https://qz.com/233165/the-pilots-of-...es-of-the-air/

Anyone can “ask” for anything but the ONLY situation in which I’ll hand anything over is if it’s done by a court order. And then only after consulting with an attorney!!

In the meantime….shut the front door…and don’t ever ever answer any Qs the FAA, NTSB, or company ask without counsel.

Y’all have indeed watched that video “Don’t talk to the police”, righttt?? Same
principle applies here.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3305692)

Yes. Same rules as using your cell phone.

The rule wasn't written with cameras in mind, that was collateral damage, they were trying to account for texting, online activity, etc. Politicians got involved after a NW crew overflew their destination at FL350 while sleeping, and blamed it on being distracted by a laptop.

Or kindles for that matter... technically it's OK to read a paperback but not a kindle.

Notwithstanding my advice above, the NWA crew would have been better off saying they fell asleep. This was only 6 months after the Colgan accident when fatigue was a red hot topic. Of course we are stuck with a more restrictive rule than simply sterile below 10 because they opened their mouth instead of shutting up and lawyering up.

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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer (Post 3306624)

Yes... shut up first, lawyer up second.

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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer (Post 3306624)

WE might have been better off. They thought getting distracted was a more "honest" mistake than sleeping.

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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer (Post 3306624)

Kinda tough to not give them something they asked for that they already downloaded off your company issued iPad when they pushed an update overnight, or off your social media feed that you put on there in order to get clicks. I don't think the deferral sticker over the screen side camera is going to do you any good when picture or video you took is already in your photo album.
Can't ASAP away as non-sole source when it's already voluntarily posted on social media, and shows a willful breaking of an advisory circular https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...C_91.21-1D.pdf pay particular attention to paragraph 8.3.3 as well as https://www.faa.gov/other_visit/avia.../InFO14006.pdf
the PPM may say they won't use against you what you have on your company issued EFB, but you can bet they will use it as leverage.

You cannot ASAP willful violations, so there is pretty much nothing you can do with devices, media, networks, internet that would hold up as an ASAP.

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Originally Posted by Myfingershurt (Post 3304375)

Pssh. Only bourbon i could afford as a regional FO was beam. White label.

He also looks a little too you young to know how to drive a stick.

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3306471)

That's how my buddy got fired. Although the probable narc was junior to my buddy so his motive may have been seniority.

It's amazing that some people are willing to throw away a multi-million dollar career just to post some pictures on Instagram and Facebook. But hey, I just don't understand the younger generations. Didn't we lose someone at DL for answering their phone one too many times?

Also… meta data imbedded in your photos will inform those who care what kind of device was used and usually date/time.

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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB (Post 3308408)

Also… meta data imbedded in your photos will inform those who care what kind of device was used and usually date/time.

Yeah, if you get asked about it, don't lie... they might be fishing or they might actually have proof, in which case they are trying to trap you in a lie because it's *much* easier to fire you on the first offense for lying than most run-of-the-mil offenses.