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Originally Posted by threeighteen
(Post 3407399)
So the actual answer is still "no" then.
I want to know if AA will actually take someone through the flow who has an E-3 visa and their number has come up to flow to mainline. I doubt they will. Not a green card, and getting a green card isn't as easy as "starting the process." There is a lottery every year that requires a bit of luck What? lol. There's a lottery every year for Green Cards. Multiple E-3 visa holding Aussie Pilots have gotten their green card through the lottery, it's not easy but it's 100% doable and legal. The E-3 doesn't allow direct pathway to green card, but it doesn't forbid it either. |
Originally Posted by threeighteen
(Post 3407399)
What? lol. There's a lottery every year for Green Cards. Multiple E-3 visa holding Aussie Pilots have gotten their green card through the lottery, it's not easy but it's 100% doable and legal. The E-3 doesn't allow direct pathway to green card, but it doesn't forbid it either. If you "start the process" (as in, file an I-485) unless your case is solid, you will be deported. |
Originally Posted by TransWorld
(Post 3407642)
Exactly. Immigration via Green Card is not incumbent on having a certain work visa of various types (although having some work visa, E-3, H1B, etc helps).
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Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3407647)
Lol at yourself. Yes you can put your name in the hat, but chances are miniscule. The "lottery' as you call it, that is really known as the Diversity Visa Program, has over 10k applicants from Australia per year, and usually around 100-200 approvals. Since you clearly do not know how the USCIS works, I am just going to say this again - there is no legal pathway from E-3 to Green Card, apart from very few exceptions. There is no "process" to start(unless you call buying a lottery ticket a "process" to become rich), you can just put your name in the hat and hope for the best. The only ways for legal AOS are DV and I-485 through marriage, and with that one you need to prove a non-immigrant intent.
If you "start the process" (as in, file an I-485) unless your case is solid, you will be deported. I agree that there's no legal process to start to convert the E-3 to Green Card that won't end up in deportation, but... ...you implied that one couldn't apply for a green card while on an E-3 and instead to open a tinder account which is what I LOLed at, as you definitely can participate in the lottery while working on an E-3. Also the diversity visa program lottery must be rigged towards pilots if the normal applicant vs winner ratio is that large, as most of the pilots I know who have been trying to get one usually get one within 2-3 years of trying. Being married helps too though (2x chance of winning). |
Originally Posted by threeighteen
(Post 3407652)
Yeah man I'm not the one who suggested "starting the process"
I agree that there's no legal process to start to convert the E-3 to Green Card that won't end up in deportation, but... ...you implied that one couldn't apply for a green card while on an E-3 and instead to open a tinder account which is what I LOLed at, as you definitely can participate in the lottery while working on an E-3. Also the diversity visa program lottery must be rigged towards pilots if the normal applicant vs winner ratio is that large, as most of the pilots I know who have been trying to get one usually get one within 2-3 years of trying. Being married helps too though (2x chance of winning). |
Just wondering... What regionals right now have the shortest training and limited to no waiting time between training events.
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Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3407699)
Ok I misinterpreted your lol there then. This issue is somewhat personal to me, that's why I try to correct people asap who say things like "just start the process as soon as you can", it is not that simple, far from it. You should not enter the country as E-3 and expecting you will end up with a green card. If you do, great. Majority still won't. There are also years when certain countries are exempt from the DV process, like this year if you're from the UK, you're out. It is based on the number of applications normally coming from that country, so if we get a huge influx of E-3's, chances are they might be excluded from the DV for a while too.
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
(Post 3408379)
No worries. I'm still really curious if AA will actually find a way to let an E-3 visa holder actually flow or if they will find a way out of it.
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Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3408386)
Transferring to a new airline is simple as E-3 but just like you say, it will be interesting to see if they really want to complete that or just keep them as regional seat filler.
But also... E-3 is not a greencard, it expires after a few years and if the fed were to not renew them for some reason AA could lose those pilots again. They might prefer to spend their limited training bandwidth on people they know will be able to stick around. I wouldn't consider an E-3 to be a reliable basis for career planing in the US aviation industry. |
So this seems semi on topic and off topic.
But I’ve recently been approved for my green card and will be coming to the states later on this year. I have around 1500 hours currently and will probably have around 1800 by the time I come to the states. My question to you all is, would an American regional even look at me, having a UK ATPL and two type ratings with some instructor experience. I’ll have over 1000 hours airline experience. Im totally aware my type ratings essentially mean nothing in FAA world. But just wondering if I’d have a decent chance of getting a job and maybe getting the ATP through a regional or other type (private/charter) I can expand on the type of flying I have done if that helps, just looking for advice as it’s a massive move and just want to be as prepared as one can be! |
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