That's very noble of you, but a good job is a good job. I've actually counseled a few of my west coast FOs to go there, and they did and are happy. Upgrade is about 1.5 years on the jet (13 mos on the Brasilia, and management treats them fairly well. Most are happy. ATL is also a junior base right now, so you'd prbably get it.

Agreed. I was just mentioning everyone with an ATL base.

Both have or soon will have an ATL base. Pinnacle recently got "awarded" a bunch of CRJ-900s for DAL.

I wouldn't put ASA #1 just because you want to be in ATL. There are better choices. But with your time, it may be your only option.

 

Actually, the ATR is senior for FOs, but junior for CAs. And most trips are 4 days, with a few 3 days and a few day lines. I wouldn't say ATR pilots spend more time at home than anyone else.

What's great is that most of the ATR FOs are recieving -700 pay because they are "bypassed". That's a loophole in out contract that basically states if the company puts someone junior to you in a position you bid for, you get paid the rate for that position.

As for ATR captains, they like it because they get paid the same as the jet for 1/4 the work. The ATR is EASY and FUN! And the junior ones can hold a line rather than sit reserve on the jet (note: reserve SUCKS at ASA, you have NO LIFE).

 

How long is reserve runninf at ASA on the CRJ200 right now???????

 

Agreed. I would actually say the latter option is the most likely.

Our current scope language offers us no protection. In fact, management has told our negotiating committee that "preferential hiring" at Skywest is the best they can offer us in terms of merger protection. That means if Uncle Jerry decides to get rid of ASA, it will be like the rampers going to DAL. Skywest will cherrypick the "good" people and they will come on as new hires at Skywest. As of now, we nave ZERO protection making a merger percentage based. If Skywest goes ALPA, the ALPA merger policy kicks in, making a % seniority merger more likely.

ASA won't be shut down overnight. The new game is "retire and reward". Right now, Bombardier is taking trades of -200s for -700s, -705s, and -900s because there is huge demand for -200s in China, but they are out of production. What Skywest will do is trade in ASA's -200s and place the new airplanes at Skywest. This eliminates transfer costs. Attrition will take care of the pilots. When we're whittled down to about 500 pilots, they'll pull the plug on ASA and the above scenario will take place.

Agreed it's not a requirement, except that the union has hung their hat on SKW unionization for the scope protection it offers. In return, they're trying for a trophy contract to woo the Skywest pilots into going ALPA.

I don't believe it will pass. Too many pilots over there are apathetic and believe management's story that it will hurt the company. They see the ASA pilots getting screwed and think it's because of the union. Also, many of the hardcore union supporters over there have left.

 

The letter came as an email to all pilots. I think it came out on monday. Check your email, you should have gotten it as well.

 

A month on reserve at the most (CRJ 200). After that, you can hold a relief line, and possibly a regular line.

 

It was on the ourasa company mail.

 

People are leaving because of a lot of things. There were many that after 9/11 realized how difficult it would be to take the pay cut. With all of the crap that is going on many are realizing that they can't afford not to take the pay cut.
The are loosing a lot. I know that even some of the CP's are looking at SWA and others. It makes sense. Unless this job will always come first and you do not care about your family, you will need to make this temporary at best. ASA is good for 3-5 years top. DO not get comfortable. If you are feeling yourself do that, go find another job.

 

I'm relatively new to ASA, but I can go along with you on that. Better yet, I think you are right on target.

 

I'm of the opinion that all regionals are suppose to be temporary in nature...that is perhaps with one exception - Horizon.