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05-22-2022, 04:46 PM

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highfarfast

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Originally Posted by 3400

PBS has been in Envoy’s CBA for years, they could’ve implemented it years ago. We’re just now cashing in on it with other contractual improvements and negotiating how PBS will look here.

Cashing in on it? You make it sound like it’s a good thing…

05-23-2022, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by highfarfast

Cashing in on it? You make it sound like it’s a good thing…

Read the rest of my sentence…

05-23-2022, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 3400

Read the rest of my sentence…

I did. And then I did again. You make it sound as if it’s a good thing…

05-23-2022, 06:46 AM

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The only people cashing in on PBS is management.

05-23-2022, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by threeighteen

The only people cashing in on PBS is management.

PBS is great, but the pilot group needs tight contractual controls.

05-23-2022, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

PBS is great, but the pilot group needs tight contractual controls.

A WO Regional with tight contractual control is an oxymoron.

05-23-2022, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Throwitaway

A WO Regional with tight contractual control is an oxymoron.

PBS and “great” is also an oxymoron. If you ever want to get staired down in a bar, utter those exact words around a group of pilots who have good line bidding.

05-23-2022, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

PBS is great, but the pilot group needs tight contractual controls.

I agree. Of course in addition to the contractual controls you need to actually take the time to understand how it works as do the negotiators who negotiate those contractual controls.

I find it amusing how many pilots - even senior pilots with years of experience - farm their bidding out to bidding services rather than just learning how to make the system work for their own bidding.

Their ignorance supports an entire cottage industry.

https://pbsbiddingstrategies.com/pbs-monthly-pricing/

https://pbsgurus.com

https://www.bidliner.com/how-it-works

https://planebids.com/schedule-now

05-23-2022, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

It’s a service and all about how someone values their time. Could I mow my grass? Sure, but I’d rather pay someone else to do it.

05-23-2022, 08:42 AM

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It’s a service and all about how someone values their time. Could I mow my grass? Sure, but I’d rather pay someone else to do it.

it’s also the difference between understanding how to get the best you can from PBS and trying to convey to someone else what you want so they can get make their best guess of what you want. Big difference.