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Old 05-22-2022 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 3400
PBS has been in Envoy’s CBA for years, they could’ve implemented it years ago. We’re just now cashing in on it with other contractual improvements and negotiating how PBS will look here.
Cashing in on it? You make it sound like it’s a good thing…
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Old 05-23-2022 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
Cashing in on it? You make it sound like it’s a good thing…
Read the rest of my sentence…
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Old 05-23-2022 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 3400
Read the rest of my sentence…
I did. And then I did again. You make it sound as if it’s a good thing…
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Old 05-23-2022 | 06:46 AM
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The only people cashing in on PBS is management.
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Old 05-23-2022 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
The only people cashing in on PBS is management.

PBS is great, but the pilot group needs tight contractual controls.
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Old 05-23-2022 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
PBS is great, but the pilot group needs tight contractual controls.
A WO Regional with tight contractual control is an oxymoron.
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Old 05-23-2022 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Throwitaway
A WO Regional with tight contractual control is an oxymoron.
PBS and “great” is also an oxymoron. If you ever want to get staired down in a bar, utter those exact words around a group of pilots who have good line bidding.
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Old 05-23-2022 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
PBS is great, but the pilot group needs tight contractual controls.
I agree. Of course in addition to the contractual controls you need to actually take the time to understand how it works as do the negotiators who negotiate those contractual controls.

I find it amusing how many pilots - even senior pilots with years of experience - farm their bidding out to bidding services rather than just learning how to make the system work for their own bidding.

Their ignorance supports an entire cottage industry.

https://pbsbiddingstrategies.com/pbs-monthly-pricing/

https://pbsgurus.com

https://www.bidliner.com/how-it-works



https://planebids.com/schedule-now
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Old 05-23-2022 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
I agree. Of course in addition to the contractual controls you need to actually take the time to understand how it works as do the negotiators who negotiate those contractual controls.

I find it amusing how many pilots - even senior pilots with years of experience - farm their bidding out to bidding services rather than just learning how to make the system work for their own bidding.

Their ignorance supports an entire cottage industry.

https://pbsbiddingstrategies.com/pbs-monthly-pricing/

https://pbsgurus.com

https://www.bidliner.com/how-it-works



https://planebids.com/schedule-now
It’s a service and all about how someone values their time. Could I mow my grass? Sure, but I’d rather pay someone else to do it.
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Old 05-23-2022 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by kevin18
It’s a service and all about how someone values their time. Could I mow my grass? Sure, but I’d rather pay someone else to do it.
it’s also the difference between understanding how to get the best you can from PBS and trying to convey to someone else what you want so they can get make their best guess of what you want. Big difference.
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