Regional pilot numbers
03-14-2023, 01:03 PM
#121
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Originally Posted by Cleared4appch
Also, another thing I and myself have noticed over the years, is that kids don’t really have an interest in aviation as much as previous generations did. They would rather be pretend pilots on Microsoft flight sim and other gaming platforms and don’t value a pilot career as much.
Though i'm sure most will do it eventually out of necessity, unlike flying.
Last edited by FlyinCat; 03-14-2023 at 01:04 PM. Reason: added thought
03-14-2023, 02:25 PM
#122
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Originally Posted by FlyinCat
That squares with the observation that fewer teens are interested in driving, as well. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...R--Fu-DmOw6GXg
Though i'm sure most will do it eventually out of necessity, unlike flying.
Though i'm sure most will do it eventually out of necessity, unlike flying.
But that’s interesting about the driving thing and teens losing interest in it. I’m honestly surprised and had no idea that was a trend developing.
03-14-2023, 02:40 PM
#123
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
The "historical" seven-year recession cycle came due in 2014... they've been saying it's right around the corner, any day now for the last nine years 
The old paradigm is broken, I don't pretend to know what the new one is and I'm not saying recessions won't happen, but covid and the red army in a ground war in Europe haven't quite triggered one yet.
We already *got* higher fuel prices.
Also travel is thriving even as other consumer spending sectors slow down a bit. Looks like pent-up demand and new travel habits will get us through this cycke at least.
I have as much PTSD from industry cycles as the next Lost Gen, but rationally I think we might be OK on this one at least.
Age 67 might allow the system to stabilize long enough for the majors to do what they should have done 15 years ago... establish ab initio pipelines which they can control. I think there are plenty of folks who would love to be airline pilots if they can simply apply, show up, and attend training without worrying about tuition, loans, collateral, and top ramen.
The old paradigm is broken, I don't pretend to know what the new one is and I'm not saying recessions won't happen, but covid and the red army in a ground war in Europe haven't quite triggered one yet.
We already *got* higher fuel prices.
Also travel is thriving even as other consumer spending sectors slow down a bit. Looks like pent-up demand and new travel habits will get us through this cycke at least.
I have as much PTSD from industry cycles as the next Lost Gen, but rationally I think we might be OK on this one at least.
Age 67 might allow the system to stabilize long enough for the majors to do what they should have done 15 years ago... establish ab initio pipelines which they can control. I think there are plenty of folks who would love to be airline pilots if they can simply apply, show up, and attend training without worrying about tuition, loans, collateral, and top ramen.
03-14-2023, 03:45 PM
#124
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Originally Posted by b3181981
Do you really think this is an issue when we have ATP qualified pilots on this website who are having to wait as much as half a year before they can get a class date at the regionals?
03-14-2023, 05:35 PM
#125
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Age 67 will slow hiring at mainline for a short time. Hopefully long enough to get upgrade qualified FOs in the pipeline and slow captain attrition at the regionals.
03-14-2023, 07:53 PM
#126
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Originally Posted by FlyinCat
That squares with the observation that fewer teens are interested in driving, as well. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...R--Fu-DmOw6GXg
Though i'm sure most will do it eventually out of necessity, unlike flying.
Though i'm sure most will do it eventually out of necessity, unlike flying.
03-15-2023, 10:47 AM
#127
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Originally Posted by b3181981
Do you really think this is an issue when we have ATP qualified pilots on this website who are having to wait as much as half a year before they can get a class date at the regionals?
this guy gets it
03-18-2023, 10:16 AM
#128
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Originally Posted by WarniWarni
this guy gets it
03-18-2023, 04:14 PM
#129
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
The current regional CA shortage is only the most limiting part of the supply chain. Don’t make the mistake of thinking it is the ONLY constraint, just because people are backing up behind it.
03-19-2023, 11:55 AM
#130
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Originally Posted by b3181981
Do you really think this is an issue when we have ATP qualified pilots on this website who are having to wait as much as half a year before they can get a class date at the regionals?
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