Regional pilot numbers
03-02-2023 | 05:51 AM
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And the arrival of fuel efficient narrow bodies capable of long haul will affect regionals too. With a 737 MAX 7 or an A220 or A320 NEO XR flying “thin” long routes point to point, hubs and regional feed may well be less important. The fact is that regionals exist because the legacies figured they could make money off them. That is less and less the case.
03-02-2023 | 06:29 AM
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The 50 seaters are primarily being operated for United—Air Wisconsin, GoJet, and Commutair—and United seems to be willing to subsidize the increased labor costs at least short term. They even bailed out Mesa. Perhaps United is trying to keep them going for a couple more years until they can cover the flying themselves?
Piedmont operates 50 seaters and is unlikely to fail with AA subsidizing them and relying on their feed. Although Envoy is slowly parking their E145s and transferring some to Piedmont, so it could happen—when AA is ready.
Endeavor still flies CRJ 200s, I can see those being parked as Endeavor shrinks. SkyWest still flies CRJ 200s, not sure for which partners, but they are big enough to survive when no one wants to fly on the 200s anymore. Mandatory upgrades don’t seem to have helped them. It will be interesting to watch what happens.
Piedmont operates 50 seaters and is unlikely to fail with AA subsidizing them and relying on their feed. Although Envoy is slowly parking their E145s and transferring some to Piedmont, so it could happen—when AA is ready.
Endeavor still flies CRJ 200s, I can see those being parked as Endeavor shrinks. SkyWest still flies CRJ 200s, not sure for which partners, but they are big enough to survive when no one wants to fly on the 200s anymore. Mandatory upgrades don’t seem to have helped them. It will be interesting to watch what happens.
03-05-2023 | 06:28 AM
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And yet people applying to other regionals - and lifers at those regionals - believe that they can keep flying their CRJ-200s and Emb-145s into the sunset.
What’s not cost effective for Endeavour is highly unlikely to be significantly more cost effective for anyone else.
What’s not cost effective for Endeavour is highly unlikely to be significantly more cost effective for anyone else.
03-05-2023 | 08:38 AM
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And yet people applying to other regionals - and lifers at those regionals - believe that they can keep flying their CRJ-200s and Emb-145s into the sunset.
What’s not cost effective for Endeavour is highly unlikely to be significantly more cost effective for anyone else.
What’s not cost effective for Endeavour is highly unlikely to be significantly more cost effective for anyone else.
Oil's around $80, 50-seaters are paid off, and ticket prices are sky-high. You *should* be able to make money on the right routes, if you can find anyone to fly the things. If you're a senior lifer at a regional with 50's only, you might be willing to stay and do it. They have to find you an FO though...
03-05-2023 | 10:07 AM
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Money is fungible but economics aren’t.
Plus, short haul routes have other problems. If I have to be at the airport two and a half hours before scheduled takeoff to park and go through security for a scheduled 150 mile trip, I can probably just take a bus and beat the time.
Plus, short haul routes have other problems. If I have to be at the airport two and a half hours before scheduled takeoff to park and go through security for a scheduled 150 mile trip, I can probably just take a bus and beat the time.
03-05-2023 | 10:35 AM
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I think the issue is staffing, not cost effectiveness.
Oil's around $80, 50-seaters are paid off, and ticket prices are sky-high. You *should* be able to make money on the right routes, if you can find anyone to fly the things. If you're a senior lifer at a regional with 50's only, you might be willing to stay and do it. They have to find you an FO though...
Oil's around $80, 50-seaters are paid off, and ticket prices are sky-high. You *should* be able to make money on the right routes, if you can find anyone to fly the things. If you're a senior lifer at a regional with 50's only, you might be willing to stay and do it. They have to find you an FO though...
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