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golfandflows 09-02-2022 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by tlove482 (Post 3488243)
Start hiring into bases and cut down on overnights and I'd dust off my atp.

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Doesn’t sound like the airlines are for you.

Excargodog 09-02-2022 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3488045)
The real story is how many CAs and CA-qualified FOs do regionals have on their seniority lists. Because new hires aren’t an issue. Regional CAs are the issue. As for the big pay increases I suspect there will be some shuffling of regional pilots between carriers, but that’s about it. Ultimately the solution for regionals is for the flying to be done on a mainline seniority list by mainline pilots. Money to stay at a regional only works to a point.

New hires are an issue if you are throwing around terms like “exponentially”. But yeah, the MOST limiting factor currently is losing CAs and high 121 time FOs before you can generate enough additional CAs and high 121 time FOs to replace them, which creates a negative feedback loop. But there is hardly an “exponential” amount of ATP eligible waiting in the wings either..l

Reader 09-02-2022 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by golfandflows (Post 3488269)
Doesn’t sound like the airlines are for you.


That’s probably why they’re not currently flying for an airline…

idlethrust 09-02-2022 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3488266)
Seniority.



There's usually a late PM arrival and an early AM departure. So you either have to do overnights, or standups.

Standups are the way to go if you live in base and can live off min guarantee. Home every day .

DanMarino 09-03-2022 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 3488481)
Standups are the way to go if you live in base and can live off min guarantee. Home every day .

What’s a standup? Non airline dude here

Ravenwing 09-03-2022 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by DanMarino (Post 3488858)
What’s a standup? Non airline dude here

That is when you fly the last flight in and first flight out in the morning, with maybe 5-7 hours in a hotel because you are technically on duty all night and off all day when you get back to base. If your evening flight is delayed it can be an even shorter night. Some people who live in base like them because they are home more than four day trips and it’s fairly easy work for minimum guarantee. Those who don’t nap well during the day hate standup overnights.

DanMarino 09-04-2022 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Ravenwing (Post 3488862)
That is when you fly the last flight in and first flight out in the morning, with maybe 5-7 hours in a hotel because you are technically on duty all night and off all day when you get back to base. If your evening flight is delayed it can be an even shorter night. Some people who live in base like them because they are home more than four day trips and it’s fairly easy work for minimum guarantee. Those who don’t nap well during the day hate standup overnights.

Hey thanks.
Not a napper - sounds rough.

iahflyr 09-05-2022 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by tlove482 (Post 3488243)
Start hiring into bases and cut down on overnights and I'd dust off my atp.

I have a lot of GA pilot friends with 1500 hours who work professional jobs. If the regional airlines did those and one other thing, they would see a lot more resumes.

-Hire into bases
-Cut down on overnights (1-2 day trips work best)
-Allow part time employment (half time lines or half the number of reserve days)

Excargodog 09-05-2022 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 3489475)
I have a lot of GA pilot friends with 1500 hours who work professional jobs. If the regional airlines did those and one other thing, they would see a lot more resumes.

-Hire into bases
-Cut down on overnights (1-2 day trips work best)
-Allow part time employment (half time lines or half the number of reserve days)

So they wind up with the same training and currency requirements for half of a junior pilot? I don’t think anyone is THAT desperate yet. Especially since the lack of upgradeable FOs is a serious problem already. Splitting the available right seat time amongst a bevy of part timers would make that problem even worse.

Reader 09-05-2022 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 3489475)
I have a lot of GA pilot friends with 1500 hours who work professional jobs. If the regional airlines did those and one other thing, they would see a lot more resumes.

-Hire into bases
-Cut down on overnights (1-2 day trips work best)
-Allow part time employment (half time lines or half the number of reserve days)


I know some international companies offer 3/4, 1/2, etc schedules. Shame that such options are opposed by US employers. I have friends that would be interested. Heck, might even consider it myself


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