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PilotBases 11-03-2022 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3525597)
The flying is already being done under the same banner in a complex jet. If the FO has 1500 hours and the captain has a year or two under their belt, what does it matter whether a route is flown in a CRJ versus a 737? We don't have RJs falling out of the sky due to lack of experience.

Agreed, and the average mainline capt will have much more flight time than the RJ capt.

WHACKMASTER 11-03-2022 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3525621)
Less friendly? Sure, I'll buy that. Less safe, though? I don't agree with that.

Certainly less safe in the hands of a 1500 hour CFI.

pangolin 11-03-2022 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3525679)
Certainly less safe in the hands of a 1500 hour CFI.

A 737 less safe that a crj? That’s a problem with 737 not the 1500 hr pilot.

Hedley 11-03-2022 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3525862)
A 737 less safe that a crj? That’s a problem with 737 not the 1500 hr pilot.

That’s a problem with a training department, not the airplane. The 737 is ridiculously easy to understand and fly.

Str8 Cash Homie 11-03-2022 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3525679)
Certainly less safe in the hands of a 1500 hour CFI.

1,500 hour CFI’s join the ranks everyday at any regional. The regional upgrade success rate is much lower than at the Majors for good reason. Some of the new hires will unintentionally sabotage a flight more than a few times a trip. Some are actually rock solid, but it’s obviously inconsistent and you’re always on high alert out of the left seat. Amazingly that’s probably the least stressful part of the job for me personally.

At the end of the day a jet is a jet and I can promise you nothing sets you up more for failure than some of these clapped out regional jets.

WHACKMASTER 11-03-2022 06:10 PM

Don’t read into it too much. All I’m saying is that after having flown the CRJ-200 and the 737-300, 500, 700, 800, and MAX 8, a CFI with 1500 hours is going to have more of a handful with a 737. I’m referring to the NG or MAX really, as thank goodness the Classics have mostly been taken behind the barn and shot.

kevin18 11-04-2022 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER;[url=tel:3526100
3526100[/url]]Don’t read into it too much. All I’m saying is that after having flown the CRJ-200 and the 737-300, 500, 700, 800, and MAX 8, a CFI with 1500 hours is going to have more of a handful with a 737. I’m referring to the NG or MAX really, as thank goodness the Classics have mostly been taken behind the barn and shot.

Does pulling back not make the trees get smaller in the 737? Does the pressure in the hydraulics come from something other than pumps? Oh, how about navigation modes, is there more to a descent plan than a CRJ that really doesn’t do any descent planning for you? How about gas, is it all gravity transfer so you have to put the ball out to switch from one wing to another? I know, it’s the third and fourth engine that really separates the 73 from the crj.

WHACKMASTER 11-04-2022 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by kevin18 (Post 3526180)
Does pulling back not make the trees get smaller in the 737? Does the pressure in the hydraulics come from something other than pumps? Oh, how about navigation modes, is there more to a descent plan than a CRJ that really doesn’t do any descent planning for you? How about gas, is it all gravity transfer so you have to put the ball out to switch from one wing to another? I know, it’s the third and fourth engine that really separates the 73 from the crj.

Have you ever flown one aircraft type that was easier and more pilot friendly than another type that you’ve flown?

If you answered “no” then you’re being less than honest. Don’t get all butthurt. Give me a break 🙄

DryClutch 11-04-2022 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3523710)
Awwww. Come on four 3-4 legs a day to essentially go no further away that 500 miles from where you started the day is riveting! Riveting I tell ya!!

I found an old trip pairing in my attic a few months ago, one day had 8 freaking legs on it, pre-117.

rickair7777 11-04-2022 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by kevin18 (Post 3526180)
Does pulling back not make the trees get smaller in the 737? Does the pressure in the hydraulics come from something other than pumps? Oh, how about navigation modes, is there more to a descent plan than a CRJ that really doesn’t do any descent planning for you? How about gas, is it all gravity transfer so you have to put the ball out to switch from one wing to another? I know, it’s the third and fourth engine that really separates the 73 from the crj.

I'd rather fly the CRJ than a guppy. Prefer DIY VNAV to all the knobology, at least as an FO.



Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 3526190)
Have you ever flown one aircraft type that was easier and more pilot friendly than another type that you’ve flown?

Yup.

With enough years and hours you get used to anything, but there's a difference in the beginning, and that lasts longer than IOE.


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