Lol... I'm not a comair new hire but dang, I thought when it came to flying it's the more work, the better... LIVIN' THE DREAM eh? lol

Do you still get paid the 75hr guarantee while waiting for IOE? If you do, that'll be a sweet vacation.

I was told 3+ weeks for IOE which turned out to be 6 days. I gues the checkairmen are getting caught up... Oh well

CA upgrades get F/O pay (guarantee of 76/month) until the first day of IOE. I believe that new hires get training pay until the first day of IOE.

They did cancel the last vancancy bid for about 70 upgrades total, so the IOE times should come down.

I'm on Day 10 since checkride & got the call for the IOE CLASS on Friday. I asked, and there's still nothing on my line for observaton flights or IOE yet.

I havent done ONE ground class. I am told there are two, half my class did one in CVG which was a review of preflight load manifest etc etc... and the other was a JFK orientation. I havent done either, and I am wondering If I will be sent to the CVG class considaring I have done 50 load manifests in the last week and about as many preflights haha.... Im confused! Again! Whats new

Hmmm...I wonder if you'll eventually do the class? I got observation flights out of JFK next week then 2 4 days out of CVG for IOE.

Pass & Move on?
 

So, how many of you are planning on passing the checkride and then heading to Pinnacle? My understanding is that several people from each Comair NH class wind up quitting right after IOE and heading to Pinnacle for the $2500 signing bonus for qualified CRJ FOs.

I am going to be interviewing at Pinnacle for the unofficial Direct Entry Captain position in Sep. I would be doing it sooner, but I am also heading to Emirates for an interview and USA 3K.

I wish you all the best at Comair. Just remember, it's not a career airline anymore. But then again no regionals are these days.

Fueling the fire, eh? :rolleyes: I wish you luck at Pinnacle then. You're absolutely right, there are not too many career regionals these days. But hey, the grass is always greener on the other side isn't it?

It isn't so much the grass is greener as my belief that my grass is turning brown. I was one of the 70 some odd people who had an upgrade that was pushed back then outright cancelled. I didn't start looking at any other grass until then.

When I came here, Comair was a career airline. Now the VP of Flight Ops is telling people in class that if you have more than 5 years here, we don't want you any more. You are too expensive. I don't think he has looked at the seniority list lately, because if he did he would see that if everyone with more than 5 years quit Comair would be left with nothing but FO's.

The people you will fly with here are great, but over the 5 years I have been here morale has continued to decline. People used to go the extra mile to get 'er done, but now you get a lot of 'not my job'. I'm not saying that isn't happening elsewhere.....

Word on Long Call Reserve
 

A word of Caution with the new Long Call 2 window. If you dont have alot of flights to commute on you might not want to bid it. For example the airport I commute out of only has 3 Delta Flights and a AA flight that is less the 1 hr apart(dosnt work for commuter cluse). LC2 is from 0700-0900 and 1700-1900hrs. so they can call you up at 1850 and tell ya you have a flight at 0730 am the next day. Withen the 12 hrs call out. The last flight out of my commuter airport leaves at 1800hrs and there is no way for me to get to JFK by 730am the next day. IF you live in base or out of an airport like MCO that has 12 flights a day or serviced by all mighty job saver, Jet Blue; then you might be able to make it work.

Also about the guys from MCO and GSO coming to JFK looks to me there is about 38 FOs thats gona be above me. (Hired in Feb) but I know there are lots of 5 yr FOs from MCO so I hope most will upgrade and fig if they have to be in JFK might as well be a Capt. :rolleyes:

[quote=skyknight;207326] It isn't so much the grass is greener as my belief that my grass is turning brown. I was one of the 70 some odd people who had an upgrade that was pushed back then outright cancelled. I didn't start looking at any other grass until then. [quote]


I was one of the lucky guys that only had about 20 minutes left of the second week of g/s when they cancelled it. Also, they (Crew services and D/O) came in the day before and said there was nothing to worry about.

go figure......

For you new guys... I tried to trade reserve days today and I talked to crew planning and she told me I couldn't trade for any days. She said they are short every day for the entire month in CVG. This is after 50 F.O. transfers from jfk to cvg at the first of the month. Good news for you new guys is hiring will continue. In the bid packet this month they also said hiring will pick up in the fall because the 900 flying is very productive. Back to 3 or 4 classes a month up from 1 or 2 in the past few months. Hope is all true good luck to you guys.

I've heard the same thing with CVG being understaffed with F/O's. I just talked to crew planning and asked about getting a TDY in CVG, but I guess there are no plans at this time. Either way, I'm transfering back to CVG on Sept. 1 anyway.

non delta flights DO work for the commuter clause. Ive use northwest almost exclusively out of DTW and have never had a problem using the commuter clause. Dont let scheduling try to tell you it doesnt work.

I agree with the shortage of FO's. I just did two days of ready reserve (CVG 50) and there were no FO's on both days while I was there. This was before 6a.m. to noon and all of the ready trips had captains but no FO's.

Great way to run an airline.

I would never use a long call window and try to FLY to work, that seems very difficult, I wish I could get it considaring I live 1.5 hours from JFK but it can easily turn into 2 or 3 hours with an accident........long call would = perfect

Well, this is off topic. But, I figure with the people who probably read this thread, I might get some good info. There are 3 (maybe more) of us looking for a crashpad starting on the 20th. I've looked on crashpads.com a little. I also wanted to look at the boards in JFK, but I haven't made it up there yet and don't know if I will before it's too late. If anyone knows of a decent place, easy to get to without a car, please feel free to PM me. Thanks!

Zenbio may have a place for you.

I use l2 to fly in, and it works very well. They usually give you more than 12 hour notice. The problem I have is when I get a call for an out and back on my last day of l2 with a release time of 22:00.

Off Topic
 

Hey Guys,

I'm most likely going to be done with IOE this week. I ws wondering if there is any way to let scheduling fly you ALOT? I'd rather fly then sit and wait since I have to commute.

Any thoughts?

The Chow

I think everyone commutes............except a few of us.....you could bid to fly next month.?!?

I think that will happen all by itself. Just wait.

Probably going to get some flying at JFK this month. THe bids just came out and there is an improvement is the trip construction. However I talked to some guys a couple days ago and they haven't been flying much while they sit on reserve. You will fly a lot for your first 100 hours though.

You will like JFK it is a lot of fun.

[quote=PokerPro;207852][quote=skyknight;207326] It isn't so much the grass is greener as my belief that my grass is turning brown. I was one of the 70 some odd people who had an upgrade that was pushed back then outright cancelled. I didn't start looking at any other grass until then. Well you know the old saying.....
How can you tell when management is lying? Their lips are moving.:p

When I first got done with IOE, they didn't seem to use me at all..except for a few ready reserves days where I didn't fly. Then they started bombarding me with trips. I turned in my log sheet a week and a half ago indicating I received 100 hours hoping they wouldn't use me quite as much, but I've still been flying each of my reserve days.

JFK Reservce Time
 

Do you guys know how long the average FO has been sitting on reserve?

The Chow

If you stay in JFK you will get off reserve faster than if you transfer to CVG, but I don't know what the exact times are. With the base consolidation happening, I'm not sure any times I give you will be accurate anyway.

Judging my the amount of people below me transferring to CVG 10/1 and 11/1 and ALL the people moving in AHEAD of me from MCO, I am expecting to be on reserve for a very long time, look at the transfer schedule, thats a lot of new people with pretty high senority......... anyone know if hiring has picked up?

According to the September bid packet, hiring will pick up in the Fall again "due to more productive CR9 flying, attrition backfill, and a new spring up-tick in utilization." My guess is mostly attrition as it seems more and more people are leaving to other companies now that the majors are starting to hire.

Some people around the 1 year mark had lines last month and this month in CVG

As a scheduler, I have to follow seniority rules and day availabilty when calling someone out to work. However if you really want to fly put in for bid to fly. Everytime you get into CVG give us a call it can never hurt. Ask the scheduler when he or she calls to look into open time the next day, ask to be tagged. Alot of New F.O. are picking up alot of flying just cause they call and harrass us everytime they come into cincy. Yea sometimes they may wait and hour or two but hey its money in the bank later. Especially when we are short f.o. on any particular day. Really short 70seat f.o..

I don't mean to sound like I'm jumping the proverbial gun so to speak as I haven't started training yet, but does anyone know how long the transition to the 700 is? I've heard that it is senior and that it is not too senior at all, I'd like to clear up the ambiguity. Thanks!

its wasn't senior as guys with 6 months time got it but now chances are you would not get it as there is about 200 guys ahead of you that could get it if they want it,