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Old 06-29-2007 | 08:12 AM
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Good info!!! I just had my interview at PSA yesterday, it went well, jsut waiting for the call of yes or no, cant see why they d say no....ASA s interview is July 9th and 10th for me. WE will see. PSA isnt as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
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Old 06-29-2007 | 11:04 AM
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I am a newby at ASA and it seems good enough. I haven't found anything I don't like yet. They put us in a nice hotel (Westin) for all 90 days of training through IOE....the trainers are a blast.....most everyone has high hopes for the airline. They are negotiating the contract more today and we'll see where it stands after that. Personally, (without having flown the line) I don't really see the BIG deal with the contract other than the scope clauses and some money issues - but lets face it my generation (21yrs old) came into this industry knowing the pay sucked. A one dollar pay increase for new hires (that is a definate to my understanding) is just another small thing to consider. The scope clause is the only thing to worry about but I can't see why it would be beneficial to change it much other than to get rid of 2 management teams. All in all they have a lot of Delta connection routes that will get covered by one company or the other. I just can't see it that anyone at ASA will lose a job anytime soon. Truth be told, if it isn't one thing it is another. One great thing is that it is an openly discussed thing. The ALPA guys give us information all the time. The management team slightly addressed some things too. From my feelings I think they will sign a new contract soon. Let's face it though, if you never knew any different....a newly signed contract won't make that big of a deal. The airline isn't going anywhere. Basically, ASA has the contract issue.....PSA has theirs (I'm not familiar with that company, but I'm sure they have something going on) Pick the company that works best for you. I can't recommend PSA because I don't know them, but I can recommend ASA based on what I have seen of them (which isn't much). A 1 leg commute out of my hometown on my own airline was a big decision factor for me. I liked they fact ASA has never furloughed and has always been profitable. I don't see much changing. The previous post is true about upgrade times and reserve. I received the CRJ200 (which all but 2 in my class did........the two youngest got the ATR) and I have been told by what I would consider reliable sources to expect about a 30 day reserve period. Upgrade time they said to expect 2.5-3 years. I have been told the CRJ700 and the ATR run about 6 months for reserve. Another thing is that these guys will get you through training. I'm not implying that you'll have any issues, but from the impression I get they are having more and more fail as minimums get lower. They actually met with one person on a weekend to help them study for about 6 hours. The common phrase is "no child left behind". They have come to the realization that the new hires aren't as experienced as they used to be and are working with it. Just don't hold on the glideslope or anything and you will get through. Just be optimistic and know what you are getting into.....consider domiciles, cost of living, aircraft, pay, atmosphere and don't go by what people say on here. Find someone that flies for the company and talk to them in person. These were all considerations for me. I can't say not PSA but I can say ASA doesn't seem to be what people on here have made it out to be.
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Old 06-29-2007 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mregan
Good info!!! I just had my interview at PSA yesterday, it went well, jsut waiting for the call of yes or no, cant see why they d say no....ASA s interview is July 9th and 10th for me. WE will see. PSA isnt as bad as everyone makes it out to be.

Hey mregan, I was also at the PSA interview yesterday. If you recall we were talking about this site in the lobby waiting to do the sim ride. Everything went well for me to. Glad it went well for you. What was the time frame for a call back? I know they said phone call good, letter bad.Talk to you soon.
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Old 06-29-2007 | 11:15 AM
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and just to add a little more because some of that could be misunderstood. It's not that the contract isn't a big deal it's just that us new guys don't know any different. These guys have been fighting for a contract for near 5 years. They deserve whatever it is they are asking for I am sure....it's just that the guys getting hired with me have no idea what needs to be changed because we've never done it so it really shouldn't be an issue to us....unless the talks go on for another while longer...then we can start having opinions. Until then....I say as ASA sits it is competitive with the rest...once the contract is signed it will be better- Don't let the negotitations be a huge factor. It will be what it will be and at our stage in the career we can't ask for much. We knew it would suck and still chose to.
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Old 06-29-2007 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Av8tr
Hey mregan, I was also at the PSA interview yesterday. If you recall we were talking about this site in the lobby waiting to do the sim ride. Everything went well for me to. Glad it went well for you. What was the time frame for a call back? I know they said phone call good, letter bad.Talk to you soon.
I may have an interview with PSA in a few weeks. Do they still give you the 25 question ATP quiz? Are the gouges on aviation interviews.com dead on as everyone says?
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Old 06-29-2007 | 11:47 AM
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AV8TR, good luck and let me know what they say, I havent heard from them yet, we ll see.

PSA still has the test, I just posted my experience on the gouges on Aviation interview . com about 5 min. ago. It was a good exp. and PSA isnt as bad as people say.
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Old 06-29-2007 | 11:48 AM
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Is ASAs interview exptremely tough???? I ve been reading the gouges, but it seems like it could be hard. Let me know anyone??? Im startingto use Flight SIm 2004 glass cockpit to get use to it.
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Old 06-29-2007 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by blcampbell
I received the CRJ200 (which all but 2 in my class did........the two youngest got the ATR).
What was the age distribution like in your class? I am wondering if I have a decent chance of getting the CRJ200. Thanks for your help.

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Old 06-29-2007 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by blcampbell
I am a newby at ASA and it seems good enough. I haven't found anything I don't like yet. They put us in a nice hotel (Westin) for all 90 days of training through IOE....the trainers are a blast.....most everyone has high hopes for the airline. They are negotiating the contract more today and we'll see where it stands after that. Personally, (without having flown the line) I don't really see the BIG deal with the contract other than the scope clauses and some money issues - but lets face it my generation (21yrs old) came into this industry knowing the pay sucked. A one dollar pay increase for new hires (that is a definate to my understanding) is just another small thing to consider. The scope clause is the only thing to worry about but I can't see why it would be beneficial to change it much other than to get rid of 2 management teams. All in all they have a lot of Delta connection routes that will get covered by one company or the other. I just can't see it that anyone at ASA will lose a job anytime soon. Truth be told, if it isn't one thing it is another. One great thing is that it is an openly discussed thing. The ALPA guys give us information all the time. The management team slightly addressed some things too. From my feelings I think they will sign a new contract soon. Let's face it though, if you never knew any different....a newly signed contract won't make that big of a deal. The airline isn't going anywhere. Basically, ASA has the contract issue.....PSA has theirs (I'm not familiar with that company, but I'm sure they have something going on) Pick the company that works best for you. I can't recommend PSA because I don't know them, but I can recommend ASA based on what I have seen of them (which isn't much). A 1 leg commute out of my hometown on my own airline was a big decision factor for me. I liked they fact ASA has never furloughed and has always been profitable. I don't see much changing. The previous post is true about upgrade times and reserve. I received the CRJ200 (which all but 2 in my class did........the two youngest got the ATR) and I have been told by what I would consider reliable sources to expect about a 30 day reserve period. Upgrade time they said to expect 2.5-3 years. I have been told the CRJ700 and the ATR run about 6 months for reserve. Another thing is that these guys will get you through training. I'm not implying that you'll have any issues, but from the impression I get they are having more and more fail as minimums get lower. They actually met with one person on a weekend to help them study for about 6 hours. The common phrase is "no child left behind". They have come to the realization that the new hires aren't as experienced as they used to be and are working with it. Just don't hold on the glideslope or anything and you will get through. Just be optimistic and know what you are getting into.....consider domiciles, cost of living, aircraft, pay, atmosphere and don't go by what people say on here. Find someone that flies for the company and talk to them in person. These were all considerations for me. I can't say not PSA but I can say ASA doesn't seem to be what people on here have made it out to be.
When you get out on line for a few months you'll understand why the contract is a VERY big deal in very short order.
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Old 06-29-2007 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GoGators85
What was the age distribution like in your class? I am 22 and in the upcoming class. I am wondering if I have a decent chance of getting the CRJ200. Thanks for your help.
Everything from 20 all the way through about 30. I was fourth youngest being 21 and my B-day in August. Another guys turns 22 in December and the other 4 days after me. Of course if you don't know age is the determining factor in seniority within your class.
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