ALPA Attack on SkyWest Airlines Fails
06-29-2007, 07:18 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
Seriously, Dude...
Don't go out there picking on SKW. Name one Regional that pays their Pilots what they ought to, to fly those 70+ seat Jets. And then name every Regional that under pays their Pilots for those same Jets. And THEN, tell me which of those Carriers are Unionized. EVERY Regional flies those Jets for substandard pay, union or not. It's a sad fact, but it is fact nonetheless. Until we ALL walk off the Job as ONE, nothing is going to change.
Don't go out there picking on SKW. Name one Regional that pays their Pilots what they ought to, to fly those 70+ seat Jets. And then name every Regional that under pays their Pilots for those same Jets. And THEN, tell me which of those Carriers are Unionized. EVERY Regional flies those Jets for substandard pay, union or not. It's a sad fact, but it is fact nonetheless. Until we ALL walk off the Job as ONE, nothing is going to change.
06-29-2007, 07:18 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by otter
I'm not pro-alpa but I'm for change. Don't forget about the 0% pay raise for us EMB guys. Thanks to all the RJ pilots that voted for that one! Skywest is a great place and I enjoy working here, however, it has it's places for improvement. I'm still not sure if ALPA could or would change anything for the better.
06-29-2007, 07:26 PM
#13
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Originally Posted by Sanchez
Hey guys,
Not to burst your bubble, but flying 700's and 900's for 50 seater rates is hardly an accomplishment. There are a number of reasons why the skywest pilot group needs representation, the one above is probably the most obvious...But hey if you're happy flying "DC 9" size aircraft for substandard pay, well by all means.
Not to burst your bubble, but flying 700's and 900's for 50 seater rates is hardly an accomplishment. There are a number of reasons why the skywest pilot group needs representation, the one above is probably the most obvious...But hey if you're happy flying "DC 9" size aircraft for substandard pay, well by all means.
06-29-2007, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
I agree, I voted no for that BS pay package on principle alone. I was a Bro pilot then the package was introduces and today I'd still vote no. BUT, keep in mind that our EMB pilots are the highest paid 30 seat pilots in the nation.
06-29-2007, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by otter
We may have the best 30 seat rates, but I don't care. There's not another industry out there where you would give part of a labor group a pay raise and not the other. Were all the same, pilots. Giving a worker a pay raise is a way of saying thank you, good job. It should have nothing to do with the size of your plane or the size of your office.
06-29-2007, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
I'd take SKW's stock purchase plan anyday and it comes out to be worth pretty penny. Does your airline offer something that compares to that?
You out of IOE yet?
06-29-2007, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanchez
Not that I'm aware but our 50 seater captains make the same as the guys flying the 900's and our quality of our life is certainly much better. On time bonuses, profit sharing, etc. The issue is pay, and these guys seem to be ok with flying a 90 seater for peanuts, just like another regional I know of that flies 70-75 Ejets for 50 seat pay.
You out of IOE yet?
You out of IOE yet?
06-29-2007, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sanchez
On time bonuses, profit sharing, etc. The issue is pay, and these guys seem to be ok with flying a 90 seater for peanuts, just like another regional I know of that flies 70-75 Ejets for 50 seat pay.
Also, if 70 and 90 seater pilots were paid what they're "owed", then wouldn't that segment of regional flying just cease to exist? Seems the cost of labor would force mainline carriers to just take this flying back for themselves. I realize that's precisely what a lot of people think should happen, but there's got to be a few side effects. One big advantage of regional service is greater frequency on the big routes, and that would pretty much be killed, probably spurning some potential customers. And I think some routes might not even be profitable with the higher cost of labor. In my mind, that would lead to less flying, more pilots looking for work, and depressed wages anyway.
Besides, no one is being forced to fly the big plane for the small plane rate. Everybody has their own reasons, but if someone is willing to work for a given rate, why not let them? For that matter, I'm against the premise of a minimum wage on the same grounds. And I agree with J.O. when he says that as long as there's a stack of resumes on his desk, pilots are overpaid.
It's nothing personal. It's just business. (Yeah, I ripped that off from The Apprentice. Whatever.)
06-29-2007, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SharkAir
I don't work at SkyWest, but I was under the impression they do have on-time incentives and profit sharing. (Help me out here, SkyWest guys.)
And, the most important thing of all, which so many here seem to not understand...
IF WE SKYWEST PILOTS THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING JACKED AROUND, DON'T YOU THINK WE WOULD HAVE VOTED ALPA IN?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
IF 85% OF US DON'T WANT TO BE ALPA REPRESENTED, WHAT DO YOU CARE???
OK, I'll step off my soapbox now.
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