Annoying copilot
07-06-2007 | 12:00 PM
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07-06-2007 | 12:07 PM
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I mean obviously I have the flows memorized but the idea of "backing up" your flow with your "memorized checklist"??!!! The whole point of doing the checklist is that our memories aren't fool-proof no matter how much you think it might be!!
I'm sure he didn't start out this way when he was a new hire.. probably picked it up somewhere along the way from someone else who told him that it was OK and even practical. Even though he's a good friend, I don't look forward to flying with pilots who practice these kind of habits.
07-06-2007 | 04:34 PM
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07-06-2007 | 04:35 PM
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I have a friend who was vehemently arguing with me that in the "real world" you have to memorize your checklist because you just dont have time to pick it up and read it off in certain situations (he was using the before takeoff checklist as an example).
I mean obviously I have the flows memorized but the idea of "backing up" your flow with your "memorized checklist"??!!! The whole point of doing the checklist is that our memories aren't fool-proof no matter how much you think it might be!!
I'm sure he didn't start out this way when he was a new hire.. probably picked it up somewhere along the way from someone else who told him that it was OK and even practical. Even though he's a good friend, I don't look forward to flying with pilots who practice these kind of habits.
I mean obviously I have the flows memorized but the idea of "backing up" your flow with your "memorized checklist"??!!! The whole point of doing the checklist is that our memories aren't fool-proof no matter how much you think it might be!!
I'm sure he didn't start out this way when he was a new hire.. probably picked it up somewhere along the way from someone else who told him that it was OK and even practical. Even though he's a good friend, I don't look forward to flying with pilots who practice these kind of habits.
07-06-2007 | 04:38 PM
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My pet peeve is when you do something like run a checklist at the time it's supposed to be run and the CA gets all irritated because he didn't 'ask' for it. 
P.S. - Prior to reading this thread, I was discussing exactly this scenario with my CA. Our new joke is now "I haven't called for that yet!!!!!!" anytime someone makes a common sense move in the cockpit...
P.S. - Prior to reading this thread, I was discussing exactly this scenario with my CA. Our new joke is now "I haven't called for that yet!!!!!!" anytime someone makes a common sense move in the cockpit...
07-06-2007 | 04:45 PM
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Yea- he said after a 3-day that he didn't want conflict in the cockpit but when I said standard calls and profiles that would include autopilot on at 600'. I explained that the red AP disconnect button works on the FO side and the AP still "happened" to work when CALLED FOR above 10K and that when given a brief and I conclude with "any questions" or "cool with you (after a couple days of flying with someone)" that this issue should be brought up at that time- not at 600' after we already hashed this out numerous times. He was a bit controlling... Not a fan of that- CA authority is a bit different than trying control someone!
07-06-2007 | 04:47 PM
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If you look, sometimes maybe it IS lined up- with the course. At least, that is the way I like it. It reinforces the fact that I am not on a vector (old habit from an old airplane).
07-06-2007 | 04:59 PM
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CAs who remind me that I am in magenta needles when given an "intercept the localizer" clearance 30 miles out. I know that technically it's supposed to be in green needles but have they ever seen Mr. Honeywell fly? That somnabitch is all over the place until you get to about 20 miles, and even then depending on where you're at and if they are crossing airplanes in front of the LOC antennae you may still be S-turning.
07-06-2007 | 07:00 PM
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CAs who remind me that I am in magenta needles when given an "intercept the localizer" clearance 30 miles out. I know that technically it's supposed to be in green needles but have they ever seen Mr. Honeywell fly? That somnabitch is all over the place until you get to about 20 miles, and even then depending on where you're at and if they are crossing airplanes in front of the LOC antennae you may still be S-turning.
Do what the CA tells you to.He is the final authority.
