So much hate......
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Hope I dont get bashed for this post.................Its just a question
Ive noticed that here and on jetcareers alot of people hate on Gulfstreamers and other pft/pfj outfits. I just dont see the reason to bash on these guys so hard if they decided to take this route. My wife last week finished up her CS training at Spirit and I was picking her up and the pilot class was finishing up. 95% of the guys there were from GFT...........So if guys are making it to a "major" like Spirit, why should you call them scabs and that they will never get a jumpseat or that interviewers wont consider them. I also have friends at DAL, CAL, SWA and TRS that were all ex-GFT'rs; Both FO's and Capts. So why hate? let these guys be.
All the BS about paying youre dues and this and that dont matter these days. Airlines want pilots and want them now not 2 years from now when we finish CFIing. I just feel that these guys dont deserve all the bashing...... I am not a GFTer but just made that my screen.....Im sweating bullets in the right seat of a 152 just like the rest of us trying to make it.................Just wondering why dont you guys bash CFI's for making that choice and not going GFT and pay for a job or rent a right seat. Its all the same ******* we paid for CFI just as they paid for GFT. Just my 2 cents......
Ive noticed that here and on jetcareers alot of people hate on Gulfstreamers and other pft/pfj outfits. I just dont see the reason to bash on these guys so hard if they decided to take this route. My wife last week finished up her CS training at Spirit and I was picking her up and the pilot class was finishing up. 95% of the guys there were from GFT...........So if guys are making it to a "major" like Spirit, why should you call them scabs and that they will never get a jumpseat or that interviewers wont consider them. I also have friends at DAL, CAL, SWA and TRS that were all ex-GFT'rs; Both FO's and Capts. So why hate? let these guys be.
All the BS about paying youre dues and this and that dont matter these days. Airlines want pilots and want them now not 2 years from now when we finish CFIing. I just feel that these guys dont deserve all the bashing...... I am not a GFTer but just made that my screen.....Im sweating bullets in the right seat of a 152 just like the rest of us trying to make it.................Just wondering why dont you guys bash CFI's for making that choice and not going GFT and pay for a job or rent a right seat. Its all the same ******* we paid for CFI just as they paid for GFT. Just my 2 cents......
#14
more ironic and ridiculous still is these days guys can get jobs with a wet comm. multi ticket. why then are people still going out and paying an arm and a leg for a position that they should and COULD be getting paid to do?
we should set up groups of people to stand at the gates as these flights are boarded with signs that let the passengers know their pilot is also a paying customer!
we should set up groups of people to stand at the gates as these flights are boarded with signs that let the passengers know their pilot is also a paying customer!
#15
Why? This isn't the first time in history that low timers are getting jobs.
I know people that were getting hired at around 400 total just before 9/11. If you go back a bit, United and others were hiring people with NO ratings on the condition that they got them.
I know people that were getting hired at around 400 total just before 9/11. If you go back a bit, United and others were hiring people with NO ratings on the condition that they got them.
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There was an express carrier flying DO-328's back in '99 that was hiring guys with 300TT and a pinch of ME time. I don't know why all this low timer stuff is news to everyone. It's been going on forever.
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I interviewed with them a long time a ago with an ATP and over 1800 total and 800 multi. most of which was pic, 135 pic time, c310,414,421,be55,be58, and they grilled me saying they didn't normally hire people with my low time. I was offered the job but went to eagle instead.
once there, i was by far the lowest time guy in the class.
this was before 99 but still. five yards from the spot of the faul..... repeat first down.
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If you're talking about PSA i'll have to throw a bs flag.
I interviewed with them a long time a ago with an ATP and over 1800 total and 800 multi. most of which was pic, 135 pic time, c310,414,421,be55,be58, and they grilled me saying they didn't normally hire people with my low time. I was offered the job but went to eagle instead.
once there, i was by far the lowest time guy in the class.
this was before 99 but still. five yards from the spot of the faul..... repeat first down.
I interviewed with them a long time a ago with an ATP and over 1800 total and 800 multi. most of which was pic, 135 pic time, c310,414,421,be55,be58, and they grilled me saying they didn't normally hire people with my low time. I was offered the job but went to eagle instead.
once there, i was by far the lowest time guy in the class.
this was before 99 but still. five yards from the spot of the faul..... repeat first down.
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Okay.... a thousand pardons then. The bs flag will now be thrown on the crews your dad was speaking to. I would never question what your father heard and I'm sure he repeated it to you accurately. However, what he heard was idle talk (rumor mill) in a cockpit and i can't think of a less accurate source of info. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but PSA was NOT hiring pilots with 300 hrs in 99'. Now ASA with the ink still wet on their multi-comm temp certificate....... that's another (very scary pay for training) story.
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