Trying to see if it's possible...
#31
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Why don't you go back and re-read what I posted little boy. First of all there is the issue of a baby being thrown into the mix. Second of all, as I had posted before, if a father wants to stay home with the baby that's fine.
#33
You are not a good mother if you don't stay home with your newborn for the first 4-5 years. The father can stay home as well if the mother insists on winning the bread but that goes against the maternal instict that so many feminazis are trying to supress.
More power to a mom that insists on a working shortly after their new born. I just hope that they:
1. Have a job that allows them to bring the baby with them.
2. Or have a stay at home dad.
3. And are wise enough NOT to put the child/baby in day care full time or hire a nanny to raise the baby.
If you can't raise your child right and insist on abandoning the home and the child as you put yourself and your career at the center of your shallow little universe then please don't reproduce.
More power to a mom that insists on a working shortly after their new born. I just hope that they:
1. Have a job that allows them to bring the baby with them.
2. Or have a stay at home dad.
3. And are wise enough NOT to put the child/baby in day care full time or hire a nanny to raise the baby.
If you can't raise your child right and insist on abandoning the home and the child as you put yourself and your career at the center of your shallow little universe then please don't reproduce.
My girlfriend (she's a kindergarten teacher) and I plan on working if we decide to have kids in the future, are you saying we are bad parents for working while raising kids?
#34
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are you saying we are bad parents for working while raising kids?
"It's important to socialize them."
"I want to be able to afford to buy stuff for my kid."
Well, most non-wealthy parents I know are forced to stay at home because they CAN'T AFFORD daycare.
Don't get me wrong here. If you're a single mom your choices are pretty limited and you have to do what you have to do.
However, my thoughts are that a child is better off with a Mom and Dad and if you know in advance that this is not going to be the case then one should consider not reproducing or maybe even having their baby adopted.
Sorry to offend folks but I'm very set in my ways about these issues. I believe the hustle and bustle of our modern culture and the stress to obtain money hurts the well being of our next generation if not put in check.
It's not easy but it can be done:

http://www.amazon.com/Afford-Stay-Ho...4344798&sr=1-1
Last edited by Fugazi; 07-13-2007 at 09:04 AM.
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Do you honestly think they (or ANYONE) would CHOOSE to work if they were sitting on a pot of gold? (excluding that .001% of the population who are so fervently passionate about their work that they wouldnt give it up for a billion dollars.)
If you died tomorrow for any reason, or became disabled, or divorced your wife, how is she supposed to continue supporting herself and the children with no marketable skills whatsoever (for having been out of the workforce for so long)?
As far as "abandoning the home" goes.. my mom worked all throughout my childhood, but she lovingly cooked us breakfast before she went to work.. when she came home at night she cleaned, cooked dinner, cleaned some more, did laundry and all that other stuff. Being a mom AND having a job outside the home is doubly hard.. they do it FOR the family (maybe cuz DAD doesn't earn enough to support mom and their kids. and dont think that it cant happen to u.. u could get furloughed tomorrow.)
Women don't volunteer for it because they have rights now or to put themselves "in the center of their shallow universe.".. that is seriously the most absurd and anti-mom thing I have ever heard.
I'm not saying parents should just dump their kids in daycare.. it's a truly a tough issue with no perfect solution.
p.s., plenty of stay at home moms and dads have reared some f%cked up kids.. bad parents are bad parents whether they stay at home or work.
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As far as "abandoning the home" goes.. my mom worked all throughout my childhood, but she lovingly cooked us breakfast before she went to work.. when she came home at night she cleaned, cooked dinner, cleaned some more, did laundry and all that other stuff.
If you put your kids in daycare fulltime you are short changing them of a lot in life. Sometimes there is no choice but my point is to take the necessary steps to aviod this in advance. Daycare is bad especially when it is utilized full time. IMO, being poor and living on food stamps is fine if you can avoid throwing innocent children in daycare and depriving them of family and home at such a young age.
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Mothers certainly can work and have any career they want but if it doesn't allow them to have a wholesome home for their young children then they are probably taking their career and pursuit of money more seriously than the upbringing of their kids. Goes for the fathers too.
Last edited by Fugazi; 07-13-2007 at 10:28 AM.
#38
You got every right to your opinion and can think that it's wrong
to put kids in daycare or work while they grow up, but it's a
stupid A$$ opinion and no one agrees with you. So keep it to yourself.
Drop it.
#39
I agree with him to an extent. You do what you have to do for your own situation, but I think most would agree it would be IDEAL to have one parent around full-time till the kid starts grade school. FWIW, that was not my experience growing up.
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