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121noob 04-14-2024 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 3792478)
You've supplied a constant stream of reasons why you won't take a single suggestion or direction given you. Lots of excuses that range the gamut from your inability to live on the wages paid, to your refusal to shave your face for fear that your employer might divine that you're in search of employment (despite your assertion that you're presently doing "the same job as netjets," though you also assert that your position is not upgradeable).

Posters have ceased bothering to give you direction, as it's well established that you'll reject it out of hand.

This is actually untrue and if you would read my posts you would know that. Reading comprehension really isn't your thing is it?

Azpilot06 04-14-2024 10:34 AM

The problem you are describing is entirely theoretical. As theoretical as me debating whether I should play for the Yankees or the Dodgers. I mean, I don't really know if pinstripes flatter me. (The answer is neither - I suck at baseball and neither team has any cause to be aware of my existence).

Until you have one or more CJOs from airlines, you have no decision of where to go (other than whether you show up at your 135 job). Once you get one or more, -then- you have a decision before you.

Addressing steps 1,2 and 3 of a problem, often gives clarity to how to proceed on steps 6,7 and 8. Pants go over underwear.

JohnBurke 04-14-2024 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by 121noob (Post 3792543)
This is actually untrue and if you would read my posts you would know that. Reading comprehension really isn't your thing is it?

You're lying again. I've quoted you saying it, and provided links, and your apathy and resistance to do what's necessary to be hired is well documented in multiple places in this forum.

Do we need to quote you again to show the lie, as you insist on doubling down?

If you put half the effort into getting hired, that you put into finding excuses why you can't be hired, you'd already be well established. And probably clean-shaven (while doing the same job as netnets).

sailingfun 04-14-2024 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by 121noob (Post 3749070)
If I can't go directly to a major or lcc and it seems that I cant at the moment, then I really want to go to Envoy because Delta is my end goal. I think that's my best chance. Backup would be Edv because they are a decent company with good training and a good commute. Mesa would be next after that. Psa looks good on paper but thats about where it stops.

Republic or Skywest are good companies too but I think going to either of those two would limit my chances of getting hired into a major.

Skywest and Republic are losing pilots just as fast as every other regional airline. Like many posting on here you simply gave us your hours. That covers a small part of getting hired at a major. What is your education level? Grades? Checkride failures? Employment held with management functions?

121noob 04-15-2024 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 3792574)
You're lying again. I've quoted you saying it, and provided links, and your apathy and resistance to do what's necessary to be hired is well documented in multiple places in this forum.

Do we need to quote you again to show the lie, as you insist on doubling down?

If you put half the effort into getting hired, that you put into finding excuses why you can't be hired, you'd already be well established. And probably clean-shaven (while doing the same job as netnets).

You either haven't read all of my recent posts, or you didn't comprehend them. Go back and try again.

121noob 04-15-2024 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3792596)
Skywest and Republic are losing pilots just as fast as every other regional airline. Like many posting on here you simply gave us your hours. That covers a small part of getting hired at a major. What is your education level? Grades? Checkride failures? Employment held with management functions?

I'm a college grad and had a couple of primary failures but none in the 135 world or on my type rating rides. No management jobs. Not a CFI.

JohnBurke 04-15-2024 09:18 PM

Did you shave, yet?

121noob 04-16-2024 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 3793036)
Did you shave, yet?

Yes, every time just before I meet a recruiter. So far I've been able to hide it from my current employer. It's a good thing I don't see my bosses very often.

60av8tor 04-16-2024 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by 121noob (Post 3793265)
Yes, every time just before I meet a recruiter. So far I've been able to hide it from my current employer. It's a good thing I don't see my bosses very often.

I seriously don't understand the shaving thing. Your employer makes decisions based on your facial hair? They're gonna can you if your chin is smooth? I don't even see how this would be a topic of discussion in a legit work environment. I mean, if you show up with a beard when one is not allowed, sure, but you chose to lose the beard; what's the issue?

TaylorPilot 04-16-2024 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by 60av8tor (Post 3793275)
I seriously don't understand the shaving thing. Your employer makes decisions based on your facial hair? They're gonna can you if your chin is smooth? I don't even see how this would be a topic of discussion in a legit work environment. I mean, if you show up with a beard when one is not allowed, sure, but you chose to lose the beard; what's the issue?

I'm confused. Are you for or against them mandating you be clean shaven. I think the reasoning is that the oxygen mask wont seal against a beard very well. Same in the chemical plants. They have to be clean shaven so they can put on a mask in case of an inadvertant gas release. If a safety guy sees you with stubble, you are fired immediately, escorted to the gate and your credentials revoked...


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