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FozzieBeer

Difficult as compared to what? Going from simple training aircart to any complex jet or turbojet aircraft will be difficult but I have not gathered that Silver's failure rate is anything worth comparing to other regionals. Everything that I have learned from my sources is that the ATR is a very fun aircrat to fly in a fun envrionment. It is all relative.

FozzieBeer

I dont need to repeat what others have said but good luck. At this rate in this market I will gladly take it, with no contract, an ATP cert, and some caribbean flying. Just a thought for those looking to move on from CFI and tired of waitin on a "class date to be announced".

121noob

I'm not 20, I actually have a house and financial responsibilities. So no, $63k a year isn't doable. Also I work at a 135 right now making more than that, but with no chance of upgrading. It's not where I want to be so I'm trying to move up to a 121 operator.

VacancyBid

I don't dispute that.

But to my knowledge there is no slang for a person who is close to 121.436(3) requirements for upgrade.
My point was tha many people who are otherwise highly competitive for regional hiring do not meet that standard.

bonesbrigade

The regionals paying more than that, to my knowledge, are EDV, PSA, Envoy, rpa, and maybe pdt and oo? Basically most, but the fos they are hiring are cadets.
Id recommend edv if you had a choice... Amazing company. Get as many cjo/hiring pools as you can and continue current job.
Or downsize on cost of living to be able to get 121 time at 63k a year.

121noob

Yep applied to all the regionals that I can commute to, besides PSA and Republic. Chaining myself up for 5 years in a contract is downright idiotic, and the culture at PSA is so toxic I'm scared that the training department there could damage my record.

JohnBurke

One does what one must. If that means getting a second job, do that. Many 121 pilots have their own business or a "side hustle," which runs the gamut; you name it. I've known pilots who did everything from edit porn videos to have consulting or retail businesses, to building airplanes for others, to cleaning theaters and night, doing law enforcement and other jobs, some in, some out of aviation. Whatever it takes.

My brother, in another profession, was hiring a professional, entry-level, fresh out of school. She complained that his offered salary (industry standard) wouldn't cover her loan repayments, as she owed about 500,000. He noted that it was true, but that at her level, she couldn't bring in enough revenue to match what he was paying her, and she'd have to work a second or third job, just like everyone else (just like he did). One does what one must. Whatever it takes.

Airlines not hiring? Find somewhere that is.

Sliceback

Who has a 5 year contract??

MajorDickasons

Republic has one that based on realistic estimates for time required to upgrade, then satisfy the required time as a captain in the contract, it's about 5 years.