Is there a looming regional FO hiring push?
#11
It's easier to tell the share-holders the current headwinds are from unexpected outside factors, rather than "We put ourselves in this position with early retirement buyouts that were too aggressive". I think Boeing is the convenient scapegoat that showed up at the "right time".
#13
Not really, all the airlines were looking at reductions in hiring. The 737 deliveries are being covered to a extent by delaying retirements. The massive hiring push was covid early retirement programs induced. Not happening this time. Hiring will resume at about half the covid rate. If the economy turns there might not be any near term rebound.
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Well GoJet won't be a part of a looming regional FO hiring push. Reddit posts talking about FO applicants who were about to start class in a couple weeks are being told no class dates until 2025.
Now is that a GoJet problem? Or are we about to see a bunch of other regionals follow the same path?
Now is that a GoJet problem? Or are we about to see a bunch of other regionals follow the same path?
#15
Another factor is that in the golden wave of hiring that ended (1500 and a pulse) there was a relative scarcity of 1500+ pilots. Since the Captain shortage hit, theres'been a growing glut of 1500+ hour pilots with no 121 job offers. Regionals have thousands of applicants in the pool, and the numbers are swelling each month as 135, CFI's, etc. continue to accrue hours.
Even if FO hiring increases again, it might not be felt by most in the applicant pool.
Even if FO hiring increases again, it might not be felt by most in the applicant pool.
#16
And college. Pick back up where you left off with that online degree.
I doubt too many airlines will re-instate a hard degree requirement (they like the flexibility to hire outside of competitive norms when it suits them), but the degree will be the next competitive hard-stop after TPIC.
I doubt too many airlines will re-instate a hard degree requirement (they like the flexibility to hire outside of competitive norms when it suits them), but the degree will be the next competitive hard-stop after TPIC.
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Posted this in another thread but certianly applies here. The short of it, no there will not be a hige regional FO push.
There are a couple of issues that are going to impact Regional hiring for the next year or so at least. First is that all the Majors have either stopped or dramatically reduced hiring due to factors that mainly have to do with aircraft issues (Pratt and Whitney engines and MAX issues) and delivery (Max delays and huge backlog of NEOs). Secondly, the Legacy’s took a lot of the Regional flying in house (This is a GOOD thing) and I don’t see them giving it back anytime soon. The Regional model was getting out of control. At Republic I had whole trips where I was doing Hub to Hub flying or Hub to big to medium sized city such as CVG, ELP, JAX, etc. Regional flying was never intended for that.
So my crystal ball says expect Regional hiring to be sporadic for the foreseeable future. I heard GoJet canceled all new hire classes and other Regionals are seeing increasing delays from CJO to class date.
There are a couple of issues that are going to impact Regional hiring for the next year or so at least. First is that all the Majors have either stopped or dramatically reduced hiring due to factors that mainly have to do with aircraft issues (Pratt and Whitney engines and MAX issues) and delivery (Max delays and huge backlog of NEOs). Secondly, the Legacy’s took a lot of the Regional flying in house (This is a GOOD thing) and I don’t see them giving it back anytime soon. The Regional model was getting out of control. At Republic I had whole trips where I was doing Hub to Hub flying or Hub to big to medium sized city such as CVG, ELP, JAX, etc. Regional flying was never intended for that.
So my crystal ball says expect Regional hiring to be sporadic for the foreseeable future. I heard GoJet canceled all new hire classes and other Regionals are seeing increasing delays from CJO to class date.
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Posted this in another thread but certianly applies here. The short of it, no there will not be a hige regional FO push.
There are a couple of issues that are going to impact Regional hiring for the next year or so at least. First is that all the Majors have either stopped or dramatically reduced hiring due to factors that mainly have to do with aircraft issues (Pratt and Whitney engines and MAX issues) and delivery (Max delays and huge backlog of NEOs). Secondly, the Legacy’s took a lot of the Regional flying in house (This is a GOOD thing) and I don’t see them giving it back anytime soon. The Regional model was getting out of control. At Republic I had whole trips where I was doing Hub to Hub flying or Hub to big to medium sized city such as CVG, ELP, JAX, etc. Regional flying was never intended for that.
So my crystal ball says expect Regional hiring to be sporadic for the foreseeable future. I heard GoJet canceled all new hire classes and other Regionals are seeing increasing delays from CJO to class date.
There are a couple of issues that are going to impact Regional hiring for the next year or so at least. First is that all the Majors have either stopped or dramatically reduced hiring due to factors that mainly have to do with aircraft issues (Pratt and Whitney engines and MAX issues) and delivery (Max delays and huge backlog of NEOs). Secondly, the Legacy’s took a lot of the Regional flying in house (This is a GOOD thing) and I don’t see them giving it back anytime soon. The Regional model was getting out of control. At Republic I had whole trips where I was doing Hub to Hub flying or Hub to big to medium sized city such as CVG, ELP, JAX, etc. Regional flying was never intended for that.
So my crystal ball says expect Regional hiring to be sporadic for the foreseeable future. I heard GoJet canceled all new hire classes and other Regionals are seeing increasing delays from CJO to class date.
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