Simple- if you're on the East coast go Republic, West coast go SkyWest. After that take the shortest commute. They're both pretty similar. In theory it's easier to get fired at SkyWest but if you don't suck and can color by the numbers you'll be fine at either. Both beat the bread line.

 

Avoid doing these things at OO and you will still have a job:

Lie, cheat, or steal.

Commit gross negligence that results in a major incident.

Trash talk the company or managers on the CVR, and then have an incident that gets the CVR pulled.

 

I presumed nothing. I took the words you wrote and extrapolated that your beginning point is a hard negative on both. I only said what I said because I'd never go work for the better of two "sh&t sandwiches" and your asking people not to give certain opinions on said sandwiches while still somehow telling you which is less bad rang me as somewhat hollow.

That said your response to my response was measured and made sense to me. Had that been the starting point I wouln't have said anything because I dont think thats a question that can be answered. I am well old enough to know of all you speak after a quarter decade in the industry. And yes I still think that you could happily call either company home, and be content. So long as your starting point is reasonable. Good luck in your decision.

 

Just re-read my post LOL. Of course I havent based my opinion on a vast career of a quarter decade! I thought memory was the first thing to go at my age but I guess its...well. A quarter century will give a decent vantage point. I myself stayed at one of said sh&t sandwiched with a class date at two legacies. Made my choice based on some simple math I wont go into here. No we'll never have the QOL that they have at those lagacies but I also hear many of my friends who have gone gripe about things and a few who had seniority when they left have mentioned that they're considering taking a soft landing to come back. YRMV but attitude goes a long way.

 

Many pilots who have left the mainline have returned to DEC just to be back where they lived when they were based at their domiciles. Priorities change with the years of a human being; I did ask them why they come back to a Regional... they said the commute to reserve sucks and other things; I guess everyone is different.

 

I’m thinking about that very thing. Going from Spirit FO to Republic DEC. I’m a line holder now but commute and republic has a home base. Depends on the day as to whether I love or hate the idea.

 

My advice is to look hard at 135 operators. 1. Its a different type of flying and you may or may not like it better than airline. 2. If you want to go mainline and you sign the contract with OO, you are limited to United and Delta to get you out of it. That most likely means that they have made some sort of agreement with OO to meter and not take too many. So take away Delta from OO and Endevour (due to metering), when hiring resumes, where are they going to pull those pilots from (AA WO, UA partners or 91k/135) since they cant decimate their regional partners. Since AA is not part of the contract, you cant go there (without quite a pentalty). AA cant pull everyone from their WOs since they would be decimated, where are they going to pull from? 135s, EDV and UA partners (not counting OO). United the same, meter from OO and other regional partners with "flow", will need to hire from EDV, AA WOs and 135. 135s are common place to hire for all 3. The number of 135/91k pilots hired at majors increased a ton over the last few years since they gave up the 500hrs 121 required.

 

False. Spent three years a SkyWest. I was a good employee. Made a lot of friends. No issues. Screwed up once. Fessed up to it, and they fired myself and the FO. At a union shop I never would’ve been fired. I’ve spent the last few years afraid to speak up. Thankfully my career is back on track, and I’m not worried about it anymore. If you make it through SkyWest it’s not a pat on the back, it’s a count your blessings situation.

 

Generally, the company will argue that a loss of control close to the ground (e.g. botched missed approach, go around, etc.) or shutting down an engine when not part of a QRH procedure is gross negligence. Those are the only situations in which I know of crews who were fired. If that’s not what happened to you, I am sorry, and it would seem like quite an anomaly to hear what happened to you.