Rocket Launcher found in Jersey City, right underneath EWR's Flight Path!!!!!!!!!!!!
07-20-2007 | 12:35 PM
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that is true, about a higher loss of life from hitting the big boys, but dont give the enemy that much credit. they dont deserve it. it is very possible that this is all a huge mixup. however, if its not....this is a big problem!
07-20-2007 | 12:36 PM
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The good news about manpads is that they are not designed to shoot down airplanes...they are designed as a last-ditch defense for soldiers who are being attacked by tactical aircraft. They are intended to do at least enough damage to make the aircaft go away and stop bothering you.
The heat-seek feature works well, because most tactical airplanes have their heat sources (engines) together near the center of mass where all the tactical goodies are...in addition to getting both engines, you have a shot at avionics, control, and tactical systems as well.
Modern airliners tend to keep their engines away from the the other important stuff. It is no coincidence that the A-10, the best close air support plane ever made, has engines on pylons too.
The high level terrorists (al queda) are VERY conscious of public relations...they do not want to look like incompetent idiots on CNN. For this reason they rarely attempt "hail mary" type operations...too much risk of humiliating failure. They would not be inclined to attempt to use the wrong tool (a manpad) to shoot down a 757...they know darn well that it flys just fine on one engine and the end result would be a lot of press coverage about heroic airline pilots.
The heat-seek feature works well, because most tactical airplanes have their heat sources (engines) together near the center of mass where all the tactical goodies are...in addition to getting both engines, you have a shot at avionics, control, and tactical systems as well.
Modern airliners tend to keep their engines away from the the other important stuff. It is no coincidence that the A-10, the best close air support plane ever made, has engines on pylons too.
The high level terrorists (al queda) are VERY conscious of public relations...they do not want to look like incompetent idiots on CNN. For this reason they rarely attempt "hail mary" type operations...too much risk of humiliating failure. They would not be inclined to attempt to use the wrong tool (a manpad) to shoot down a 757...they know darn well that it flys just fine on one engine and the end result would be a lot of press coverage about heroic airline pilots.
07-20-2007 | 12:48 PM
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When I was flying Hercs ....YEARS ago, we had a couple shot at our squadrons aircraft over a month period down in peru. NO HITS.... but damn scary, luckily we had just started using chaff despensers on flights in SA because of the threat.
07-20-2007 | 02:18 PM
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07-20-2007 | 03:40 PM
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The latest story says that there was no explosive material and that the "device" was 20 years old. Typical media overreaction. I remember when I was in 29 Palms the bomb squad was called out because someone found "M-16 bullets" in his deceased grandfather's attic. That made the news too.
07-20-2007 | 04:55 PM
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yes slice i know.... but we only had chaff working at the time...... same control head just no launchers....they were mounted in our aft doors at that time because they were a quick solution to a perceived threat.....
07-20-2007 | 06:08 PM
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lolol......hell those old E model Hercs we were lucky if we had anything fancier than "OMEGA" for navigation.....
Controller: Herc 201 are you RNAV equipped today?
Herc: Yes Sir, "Our NAV" is hard at word back there!!!!
LOLOLOL
Controller: Herc 201 are you RNAV equipped today?
Herc: Yes Sir, "Our NAV" is hard at word back there!!!!
LOLOLOL
