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Old 07-22-2007 | 06:25 PM
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Oral is comprehensive, but it's not tough by all means. I believe the bust rate for FO oral has been very insiginificant. You gotta be very unprepared, showed up with no proper docs for the APD to bust you.

By the end of Indoc, you should have the memory items, limitations down, and try to visit the mx hangar after 10pm, so you can actually touch the switches and run your flows from the cockpit. If you can get the after start, taxi, climb, after ldg flow down by the end of week 2, you're way ahead of the game.

Then just before you start sim, try to squeeze in some time to try to sit in the sim from previous class, so you get a feel how the lessons go.
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Old 07-23-2007 | 09:41 AM
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Oral is comprehensive, but it's not tough by all means. I believe the bust rate for FO oral has been very insiginificant. You gotta be very unprepared, showed up with no proper docs for the APD to bust you.

By the end of Indoc, you should have the memory items, limitations down, and try to visit the mx hangar after 10pm, so you can actually touch the switches and run your flows from the cockpit. If you can get the after start, taxi, climb, after ldg flow down by the end of week 2, you're way ahead of the game.

Then just before you start sim, try to squeeze in some time to try to sit in the sim from previous class, so you get a feel how the lessons go.
Do they really allow you to sit and observe other guys flying even though you have not been assigned a sim slot?
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Old 07-23-2007 | 02:47 PM
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Do they really allow you to sit and observe other guys flying even though you have not been assigned a sim slot?
Yes, you may. 1 extra person may sit in the sim during a lesson, however, it's a first-come-first-served seat, so get to know the sim times and plan accordingly.

Now that we have the GFC (I think that's the right acronym), which is basically a fully automated non-moving sim at the CEC, you can flip all the switches you want without having to go to the hanger.
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Old 07-23-2007 | 03:01 PM
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Yes, you may. 1 extra person may sit in the sim during a lesson, however, it's a first-come-first-served seat, so get to know the sim times and plan accordingly.

Now that we have the GFC (I think that's the right acronym), which is basically a fully automated non-moving sim at the CEC, you can flip all the switches you want without having to go to the hanger.
I still highly recommend New-hire to go to the hangar at night (if you go during daytime, it's pretty slow, most of the routine checks are done after 10pm). That way, you get to do a "real" walkaround, talk to the mx guys (They are really nice to talk with, and they will show you anything on the airplane) and you get to do the flows in the cockpit. The only thing don't do is fire up the APU, or run the APU fire test if someone's in the aft equipment bay

Also, you may want to talk to your gnd instructor, because in order to get inside the hangar, you need a gate code to get inside, and someone can walk you in.
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Old 07-23-2007 | 05:18 PM
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I still highly recommend New-hire to go to the hangar at night (if you go during daytime, it's pretty slow, most of the routine checks are done after 10pm). That way, you get to do a "real" walkaround, talk to the mx guys (They are really nice to talk with, and they will show you anything on the airplane) and you get to do the flows in the cockpit. The only thing don't do is fire up the APU, or run the APU fire test if someone's in the aft equipment bay

Also, you may want to talk to your gnd instructor, because in order to get inside the hangar, you need a gate code to get inside, and someone can walk you in.

That's pretty cool. I believe that is a good training program, especially if they allow you to sit in the sim and observe. As new guy to the CRJ, watching other people perform the whole deal, I think that should be very, I mean very helpful; wow. I am excited already. Thanks rvr350 for the inputs.

One other things though: I heard that you can jumpseat before you OE for a specified amount of hours. Can you do that also, before going to the sim after passing your oral? Thanks bunch!
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Old 07-23-2007 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ900
That's pretty cool. I believe that is a good training program, especially if they allow you to sit in the sim and observe. As new guy to the CRJ, watching other people perform the whole deal, I think that should be very, I mean very helpful; wow. I am excited already. Thanks rvr350 for the inputs.

One other things though: I heard that you can jumpseat before you OE for a specified amount of hours. Can you do that also, before going to the sim after passing your oral? Thanks bunch!
yeah riding in the sim is really good. i recommend finding people at sim 1 or 2 so you can see the exact things you will be doing, and then try and stay 1 sim ahead so you will always be ahead of the game.

you will not be able to jumpseat till you pass your checkride and get your badge, and then give it a few days for them to get you into the cass system. you are required to do 4 legs in the jumpseat before you start oe.
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Old 07-23-2007 | 08:09 PM
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This is a little off topic but how does jumpseating during training work if your coming from a different airline? Are you still allowed to jumpseat or not becuase you havent passed the "new" companys training?
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Old 07-24-2007 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cfiguy11
This is a little off topic but how does jumpseating during training work if your coming from a different airline? Are you still allowed to jumpseat or not becuase you havent passed the "new" companys training?
your jumpseating privilages are revoked as soon as you leave the other airline. which makes since, you wouldn't want a bunch of guys leaving airlines and then jumpseating all over the place. infact some airlines wont give you your last paycheck till they have all your id's.
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