Hired at AWAC!!
07-25-2007 | 07:19 AM
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From: Looking Forward
07-25-2007 | 11:12 PM
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From: B737, On Top
07-26-2007 | 04:57 AM
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From: Corporate Pilot
Sacrifice
Gee, I guess I should tell all the guys I know on second year pay netting around $40,000 that they can't keep $23,000 of it. I agree with you to a certain extent, but I can't say that you paint the most accurate picture. It's pretty sad that the pay is so low, but it's also pretty sad that a lot of people are miserable in their cubicles making twice as much.
I see pros and cons to every industry. Outsourcing, layoffs, cost-cutting, and bottom feeding are certainly not exclusive of the airline industry. Yes, it's more cyclical and tumultuous than most fields, but regret is an intangible cost on one's personal goals. This is something I've always wanted to do and now I can say I've done it. I encourage anyone who has realistic expectations of this career to at least experience it.
Lastly, experience as a pilot will never hurt you when interviewing for positions outside of aviation.
Congratulations, whoareyou, welcome.
I see pros and cons to every industry. Outsourcing, layoffs, cost-cutting, and bottom feeding are certainly not exclusive of the airline industry. Yes, it's more cyclical and tumultuous than most fields, but regret is an intangible cost on one's personal goals. This is something I've always wanted to do and now I can say I've done it. I encourage anyone who has realistic expectations of this career to at least experience it.
Lastly, experience as a pilot will never hurt you when interviewing for positions outside of aviation.
Congratulations, whoareyou, welcome.
Life is a trade off. Pilots often can say that they have fun at work while their personal and financial life is in ruins. 9 to 5 types get a lot in return for their sacrifices. In the long run the "cubicle" is a better choice.
In addition as pilots our value as employees only comes from our place in the seniority system. A pilot is near worthless on the job market outside of aviation and mostly worthless in aviation as well. Pilots do not build any skills of value to anyone including most air carriers. (As proof even a laid off 777 captain would have to start out as a FO at the next company.) Pilot experience has no value except as proof that you will take a lot of employer abuse.
There are few other professions that require such a deep and highly specialised education and experience level that has so little transferable value to other aspects of life and professions.
SkyHigh
07-26-2007 | 05:29 AM
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From: Lav
Why do you guys always have to destroy a positive thread with your broken record whining.
This guy is excited because he just landed a job that he has been working toward and he was sharing the good news. Can we just leave it at that?
This guy is excited because he just landed a job that he has been working toward and he was sharing the good news. Can we just leave it at that?
07-26-2007 | 05:34 AM
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From: Corporate Pilot
Good News?
SkyHigh
07-26-2007 | 07:37 AM
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Life is a trade off. Pilots often can say that they have fun at work while their personal and financial life is in ruins. 9 to 5 types get a lot in return for their sacrifices. In the long run the "cubicle" is a better choice.
In addition as pilots our value as employees only comes from our place in the seniority system. A pilot is near worthless on the job market outside of aviation and mostly worthless in aviation as well. Pilots do not build any skills of value to anyone including most air carriers. (As proof even a laid off 777 captain would have to start out as a FO at the next company.) Pilot experience has no value except as proof that you will take a lot of employer abuse.
There are few other professions that require such a deep and highly specialised education and experience level that has so little transferable value to other aspects of life and professions.
SkyHigh
In addition as pilots our value as employees only comes from our place in the seniority system. A pilot is near worthless on the job market outside of aviation and mostly worthless in aviation as well. Pilots do not build any skills of value to anyone including most air carriers. (As proof even a laid off 777 captain would have to start out as a FO at the next company.) Pilot experience has no value except as proof that you will take a lot of employer abuse.
There are few other professions that require such a deep and highly specialised education and experience level that has so little transferable value to other aspects of life and professions.
SkyHigh
I have interviewed for other jobs, and I can't agree with you on that front. My background in aviation combined with an Ivy League degree HAS gotten me other job offers, one of which willing to pay me $10,000 more a year due to the aviation experience. If you can sell the responsibility, situational awareness, and accountability that you've gained through flying, you can impress some folks. I see your points somewhat, but I really can't say that it's hurt me as a young guy. At all. It got me my dream job (outside of aviation, but directly related), and I have no regrets.
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07-26-2007 | 07:07 PM
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From: Canadair Gosh
In fact I am gearing up to leave the office world, 60k/yr, 3 or 4 days off a week, full benefits and 401k/pension to pursue a flying career I started while in college. Office life sux. Unless you are truly self-employed you will always be working for someone else who is making money off of you.
Your boss will always make bad decisions and the pay will always suck.
Its a decision of where you want your office, in a cube with no view and 50 other people or at FL350 and the best view in the world??? I choose the latter.
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