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Old 08-27-2007 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
AE is having similar problems with not having enough FO staffing to upgrade into the SF3s. Approx 250 more AA flowbacks are being recalled from AE, and they still havent figured out what will happen to the approx 400 AE/CAs who already have AA seniority numbers from the flowthrough. To make it simple: anywhere from 250-650+ CAs will be leaving in the next few years and we cant staff the airline already.

Our first year pay is higher (by $1-5/hr) than SKYW/CHQ/XJET/Comair but we still arent filling newhire classes. In my opinion, people need to have a chance at career progression as opposed to strictly higher pay. If you could get hired at AE and be given an AA seniority # then we would be the 'place to go.' If we had quick upgrades (1-2yrs) then we would be the place to go. Horizon's payscale is by far the highest of regionals, yet the people who are most interested in HZ are the ones who chose QOL over quick upgrades. There needs to be more than just $$$!
Yup. First-year regional FO pay is so low that the small differences between the companies in this regard are not that important...there a variet of good resaons to choose one regional over another, but a few dollars per hour is not one of them.
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Old 08-27-2007 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Airsupport
yes, this is a problem. you get hired at 300 hours, you have to have 2500 to upgrade. so lets do the math. the absolute most you can fly is 1000 per year, so after 2 years you are at 2300, then add on a couple more months to get the other 200... it could be a long drawn out process.
Or 1,200/year if you're a prop-driver!
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Old 08-27-2007 | 08:47 PM
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Hooray for 100 posts!
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Old 08-28-2007 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Airsupport
yes, this is a problem. you get hired at 300 hours, you have to have 2500 to upgrade. so lets do the math. the absolute most you can fly is 1000 per year, so after 2 years you are at 2300, then add on a couple more months to get the other 200... it could be a long drawn out process.
ATP mins are 1500. Unless your airline has other minimum requirements.
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Old 08-28-2007 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Timmay
Hooray for 100 posts!
How's ground school going? Are you going to FAT?
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Old 08-28-2007 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ImEbee
ATP mins are 1500. Unless your airline has other minimum requirements.
uh, yeah.. my entire post was refering to pinnacle pilots and what is required here to upgrade. 2500hrs if you have 1000hrs in pncl crj, or 3500 off the street.
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Old 08-28-2007 | 05:56 PM
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ATP mins for ICAO count only 50% of your FO time towards the time reqs. Read the FARs under ATP time reqs. So lots of company policies require you to meet ICAO ATP times, esp if engaged in international ops.
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