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AbZorbFly 04-01-2008 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 220771)
Because I was there longer than you, and I have experienced more BS than you have, yet you still seem to stand up for your airline yet day after day this type of Bull**** goes on, why dont you go ask Lou Casella about write ups and how Colgan & Co went to bat for him.................

don't even get me started on the colgan fam...

mikey "fat a$$" colgan requested the capt and i to fly a revenue flight with flaps that were extended and not able to be retracted...both at different increments. hmmmmm

it is nice they call from a cell phone and it is not recorded

i feel i can bash all i want on them. i worked there for over a year. some people just don't get it. SAAB I gotcha back bro

dingo222 04-01-2008 05:54 AM

way to bring back the dead...................

ImEbee 04-01-2008 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 352826)
I think their was alot more to that story than most people realize.
I don't think you should be calling out peoples' names either.
You shouldn't put other peoples business out there.


Perhaps you should edit for spelling too...Seriously, how far back did you search to find this?:confused:

BeaglePilot 04-01-2008 12:53 PM

I have had many similiar scenarios discussed on here.....

I write it up first then call mx... I have grounded many airplanes and have had several cancelations due to mx. I have yet to get a phone call from my superiors questioning my actions.

Unfortunately we have some CA's here who continue to fly broke airplanes and don't write things up because they think they are being a "team player."
Little do they realize the reprocussions they are creating.

This is what you get when you have unexperienced 1yr FO's who don't even let alone do a good job as an FO whom have now upgraded to CA. They do now as a CA as they saw when they were FO's, and think this is the norm.

On to the original thread topic....

I hate to monday night quarter back, but.... If you see a history of abnormal oil servicing in the logbook then you should do a little more investigation before accepting the aircraft. Don't know about the B1900, but the Saab does have a maximum of 1qt/ 10 flight hours consumption. Your decision to accept that aircraft for a revenue flight has nothing to do with a union, and has everything to do with your experience as a CA. Now if you refused that a/c and you were told to fly it then that would be where a union would be able to assist you.

And about the rest of your day after your declared emergency... there's always that 7 letter "F" word that will take care of all your problems.

IQuitEagle 04-01-2008 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by BeaglePilot (Post 353173)
I have had many similiar scenarios discussed on here.....



On to the original thread topic....

I hate to monday night quarter back, but.... If you see a history of abnormal oil servicing in the logbook then you should do a little more investigation before accepting the aircraft. Don't know about the B1900, but the Saab does have a maximum of 1qt/ 10 flight hours consumption. Your decision to accept that aircraft for a revenue flight has nothing to do with a union, and has everything to do with your experience as a CA. Now if you refused that a/c and you were told to fly it then that would be where a union would be able to assist you.

And about the rest of your day after your declared emergency... there's always that 7 letter "F" word that will take care of all your problems.

This has to do with the quality of training and clarity and accuracy of manuals as well. Sounds like you are a SF3 CA at Eagle? Having been through Eagle's SF3 program, and Colgan's, I can say that Colgan's is a JOKE compared to the Eagle curriculum and standards. Not to mention manuals that are well organized and tailored to the company specifics.

Of course, at Eagle, the training dept. is always trying to improve its programs, with student critiques and the like. At Colgan, there is no desire to improve the crappy training, nor admission that it could (and should) be better.

Seggy 04-01-2008 06:20 PM

Iquiteagle are your initials J.A.?

DeadHead 04-01-2008 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by ImEbee (Post 353146)
Perhaps you should edit for spelling too...Seriously, how far back did you search to find this?:confused:

Yeah, I guess I should have checked the date on the thread didn't realize how dated it was.

I'll work on my spelling there champ, thanks for the pointer.

BeaglePilot 04-01-2008 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Seggy (Post 353345)
Iquiteagle are your initials J.A.?

Who's J.A.?

JoeyMeatballs 04-02-2008 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by Blkflyer (Post 220639)
I hope this is not the norm at Colgan...

was when I was there.........................no reason you guys need to work with these conditions, its your career & even more importantly you life

alpar80 04-02-2008 05:40 AM

My last day was 3/31/08, if anyone wants providence, my slot is open.


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