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Old 08-29-2007 | 07:05 PM
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some people just don't get it. CFI some more and wait for a better company. and take the advice of people who are in the industry.
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Old 08-29-2007 | 07:14 PM
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some people just don't get it. CFI some more and wait for a better company. and take the advice of people who are in the industry.
But my 152 is not as cool as a jet
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Old 08-29-2007 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by newgrad411
Yes this is true. Upgrade is the shortest on the dash-8 (1-1.5 years) and the longest on the CRJ (3-3.5 years). The erj is running roughly 2.5 years right now, I think, although an erj guy would know a little better.


The erj CA award was just sent out today..... My friend is an Aug 04 hire and has been seat locked/waiting.
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Old 08-29-2007 | 07:30 PM
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There are two Mesa refugees in my RAH class. They both left b/c of the horrible QOL and the very real prospect that Mesa may not survive the pilot shortage. No regional can adequately staff their operations right now. Someone is going to end up standing when the music stops. There's a good chance Mesa will be hurt in some way.

Friends don't let friends fly for Mesa. Two words: Average Block.
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Old 08-29-2007 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by newgrad411
Yes this is true. Upgrade is the shortest on the dash-8 (1-1.5 years) and the longest on the CRJ (3-3.5 years). The erj is running roughly 2.5 years right now, I think, although an erj guy would know a little better.
the Dash upgrade went from street captains to who knows. Freedom Dash is dead almost everyone went to Den so upgrade is now a shot in the dark. the most JR ERJ CA was awarded JFK today with a hire date 11/05 Senority # 1120's, CRJ CA is ORD with a hire date 04/04 sen # high 800's awarded a month ago. Yea mesa sucks but ive moved 450+ #s in 9 months. i cant really justify going to the bottom of another stepping stone.
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Old 08-29-2007 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by hslightnin
the Dash upgrade went from street captains to who knows. Freedom Dash is dead almost everyone went to Den so upgrade is now a shot in the dark. the most JR ERJ CA was awarded JFK today with a hire date 11/05 Senority # 1120's, CRJ CA is ORD with a hire date 04/04 sen # high 800's awarded a month ago. Yea mesa sucks but ive moved 450+ #s in 9 months. i cant really justify going to the bottom of another stepping stone.
Mine is the same story. I have been here for a little over 6 months, and have moved 300 #s. The erj upgrades are going in the 1100's and I'm in the 1400's.
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Old 08-30-2007 | 05:26 AM
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If you've moved up 450 numbers in 9 months and 300 numbers in 6 months - you're getting what $22/hour or $19/hour as a turboprop FO?- any other place except Skywest you'd be getting a pay raise.

While they may award you a captain upgrade soon, they'll hold you back and not pay protect you, like they did with the ERJ upgrades they awarded in May - awarded around 60 ERJ captain upgrades and held back 45 - and some of those held back have been at Mesa for 3-4 years - with the seniority to upgrade but still not seeing it.

If you're a Dash FO, the best base Mesa has is GJT - I know an F/O who's been flying the Dash for 2 years and she's never had less than 17 days off and has never been on reserve.

But if Mesa is helping you meet your long term goals then by all means stay there.
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Old 08-30-2007 | 05:44 AM
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Whats so attractive about Mesa?
I think it's paying for your own hotel room during the first 3 weeks of training, that's what usually buys people over...

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Old 08-30-2007 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Window_Seat
Whats so attractive about Mesa?

They will hire anyone because no one wants to go there, they will even hire you if you had a DUI, as long as you get a waiver that says you can travel outside the US they will hire you with one on your record.......
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Old 08-30-2007 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PeanutButter
I think it's paying for your own hotel room during the first 3 weeks of training, that's what usually buys people over...

Is it?

They've been buying single occupancy rooms for about 6-7 months now.
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