Mesa Interview, New Hire ?
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Mesa isn't my first choice, just considering it in case others don't work out.
Here's the thing, if I did get hired at Mesa, I'd do it only for ORD. That means only the CRJ.
My understanding is that Mesa no longer assigns people to Kansas (Air Midwest), and that Air Middy is doing their own hiring... so if you get hired, you're going to PHX for training in DH8/ERJ/CRJ.
So that's why I asked the question of airplane selection. Everyone keeps saying that ORD and IAD are pretty junior, so should have no problem getting ORD.
BUT, that's predicated on the fact that I can get the CRJ from the get-go.
If I get the ERJ, that won't have a ORD base. I think that's JFK, IAD, ATL, MCO, and maybe one more?
I don't know any DH8 bases.
So I guess here's what I am saying. I'd consider Mesa as my Plan C, and only if I can get ORD. That ALL starts with whether or not I can get the CRJ. If I can get the CRJ, and get assigned IAD, that's ok, I can bid over to ORD. But if I get the ERJ/DH8, then seatlock/fences would prevent me from getting the CRJ and getting ORD without commuting.
I hope ya'll see what I mean!
Here's the thing, if I did get hired at Mesa, I'd do it only for ORD. That means only the CRJ.
My understanding is that Mesa no longer assigns people to Kansas (Air Midwest), and that Air Middy is doing their own hiring... so if you get hired, you're going to PHX for training in DH8/ERJ/CRJ.
So that's why I asked the question of airplane selection. Everyone keeps saying that ORD and IAD are pretty junior, so should have no problem getting ORD.
BUT, that's predicated on the fact that I can get the CRJ from the get-go.
If I get the ERJ, that won't have a ORD base. I think that's JFK, IAD, ATL, MCO, and maybe one more?
I don't know any DH8 bases.
So I guess here's what I am saying. I'd consider Mesa as my Plan C, and only if I can get ORD. That ALL starts with whether or not I can get the CRJ. If I can get the CRJ, and get assigned IAD, that's ok, I can bid over to ORD. But if I get the ERJ/DH8, then seatlock/fences would prevent me from getting the CRJ and getting ORD without commuting.
I hope ya'll see what I mean!
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I had a co-worker get promised the dash.....when he showed up for class, suprise, suprise!!!!, they told him he couldn't have it.
The tendering of his resignation was contemporanious in time to the above event.
Aside from the mentioned above, I also know 5 guys that went to Mesa, within the first year, one left for Republic, one left for Chitaco, and one just started at Mesaba.
The two remaining are holding out for upgrade, which seems to keep getting further away.
The tendering of his resignation was contemporanious in time to the above event.
Aside from the mentioned above, I also know 5 guys that went to Mesa, within the first year, one left for Republic, one left for Chitaco, and one just started at Mesaba.
The two remaining are holding out for upgrade, which seems to keep getting further away.
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There are two Mesa refugees in my RAH class. They both left b/c of the horrible QOL and the very real prospect that Mesa may not survive the pilot shortage. No regional can adequately staff their operations right now. Someone is going to end up standing when the music stops. There's a good chance Mesa will be hurt in some way.
Friends don't let friends fly for Mesa. Two words: Average Block.
Friends don't let friends fly for Mesa. Two words: Average Block.
Oh and the upgrades are running 3.5 - 4 years on the CRJ. I know one of the guys who is going to upgrade in Oct and by the time he gets there he will have been there 3.9 years.
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Well, after reading through all the posts about MESA, the only way that it would appeal to me is if I was able to get MCO. How likely is it that a newhire could get based in Orlando? How long is reserve there? I don't think there are any other regionals out there based in Orlando are there?
Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the info.
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I worked for Mesa for 9 years and 9 months (not that I was counting).
Personally, it worked for me but then again, I was hired in '96 back "in the day" when every regional was charging $12,000 to pay for your own training. Only Eagle and Mesa weren't doing that at that time. If you go with Mesa, you'll have to learn Chinese and very soon. Mesa has declined from what little quality they had. The only quality I liked at Mesa were the crews with whom I've flown. They were absolutely great.
TAKE MY ADVICE - I would recommend you build your time and go with ANYONE else besides Mesa. Trust me on this one. Mesa's growth is headed to China because they can't expand in the USA. My friends that are still at Mesa are bailing out of that place as fast as possible. Many are taking lateral moves. Your quality of life will be NIL at best. You'll be enjoying 8 days off per month on reserve. Have you ever thought about the commuting concept on 8 days off? That equals about 4 days at home PER MONTH!! Unless you live in domicile (which they open and close and move to another at the changing of the wind) - you don't want to do this.
ABANDON ALL MESA AMBITIONS and focus on building your quality of time to get to the likes of the better regionals.
Personally, it worked for me but then again, I was hired in '96 back "in the day" when every regional was charging $12,000 to pay for your own training. Only Eagle and Mesa weren't doing that at that time. If you go with Mesa, you'll have to learn Chinese and very soon. Mesa has declined from what little quality they had. The only quality I liked at Mesa were the crews with whom I've flown. They were absolutely great.
TAKE MY ADVICE - I would recommend you build your time and go with ANYONE else besides Mesa. Trust me on this one. Mesa's growth is headed to China because they can't expand in the USA. My friends that are still at Mesa are bailing out of that place as fast as possible. Many are taking lateral moves. Your quality of life will be NIL at best. You'll be enjoying 8 days off per month on reserve. Have you ever thought about the commuting concept on 8 days off? That equals about 4 days at home PER MONTH!! Unless you live in domicile (which they open and close and move to another at the changing of the wind) - you don't want to do this.
ABANDON ALL MESA AMBITIONS and focus on building your quality of time to get to the likes of the better regionals.
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MCO isn't very likely. First, you have to be assigned the ERJ. That's only 36 planes out of the Mesa fleet. If you do end up on the ERJ and at MCO, it's almost two years on reserve there. That's one of the reasons I left. And having been there over a year and a half, it's not a decision I took lightly (starting the seniority thing all over again).
Well, after reading through all the posts about MESA, the only way that it would appeal to me is if I was able to get MCO. How likely is it that a newhire could get based in Orlando? How long is reserve there? I don't think there are any other regionals out there based in Orlando are there?
Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the info.
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