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Old 06-10-2010 | 04:44 PM
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Is anyone experiencing an error on the vacancy bid -04? I click on the link however the bid that pops up is the 03 bid. Can someone advise the closing date to of -04?
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Old 06-10-2010 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by p1ayn
Is anyone experiencing an error on the vacancy bid -04? I click on the link however the bid that pops up is the 03 bid. Can someone advise the closing date to of -04?
June 14th I believe.
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Old 06-10-2010 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoilers
June 14th I believe.
Thanks...not sure why the wrong bid is coming up on Epic.
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Old 06-10-2010 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by p1ayn
Thanks...not sure why the wrong bid is coming up on Epic.
Yah, not sure why it's pulling up the wrong bid, but I think remember reading it closes on the 14th. I think that was also the date RP mentioned during the furlough conference call.
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Old 06-10-2010 | 06:09 PM
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If you pull up the staffing memo in the middle of the vacancy posting it has all the dates.
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Old 06-10-2010 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BobSakamano
Did anyone notice on Epic that a Chinese aviation delegation visited Comair? I hope that DL/Comair isn't brewing up a Chinese regional venture ala ASA and Mekong Air in Vietnam...or if they are that the contract won't be as embarrassing/bottom feeding as the ASA/Mekong T&C's.
Maybe the Chinese are looking at us to figure out how to run an airline as cheaply as possible.

God forbid we open up a foreign deal. Hard to believe the ASA guys are lining up for those pay rates. For as much as we complain about the FAA/ALPA, at least we have them...
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Old 06-10-2010 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by captainv
Maybe the Chinese are looking at us to figure out how to run an airline as cheaply as possible.

God forbid we open up a foreign deal. Hard to believe the ASA guys are lining up for those pay rates. For as much as we complain about the FAA/ALPA, at least we have them...
I can tell you from experience that working overseas sheds a whole new light on the "spirit of cooperation" when it comes to flight & duty time. Nobody has your back. Your employer is a contractor aka "pimp", the airline wants the most they can get out of you in spite of contracts and regulations and there is zero representation. Complain about ALPA all you want. When I return, I will gladly pay my dues and participate.

I think Skywest/ASA have opened the doors to bringing the US Regional Airline business model to the rest of the world. China and the Far East are all high yield markets that don't need to "cost cut", but will adapt if handed the opportunity as ASA has done.

God help expats looking for reasons to justify the awful lifestyle if Comair throws their hat into the ring too. I doubt they are, just thought it was interesting that the Chinese came to see Comair of all regionals (since Comair's costs are so "out of line").

MakersMarc: bringing back furloughs is good (I'm one of the ones close to making the cut) but doing damage to one of the last frontiers of lucrative flying is what ASA/SkyWest have done with the Air Mekong deal and I hope that Comair isn't considering it too. As you know, flying overseas is not glamorous and the higher pay isn't as high as it sounds after factoring in the risks, lack of job security, time away from family and much more.

Anyway, I dont' want to derail our beloved thread. Just thought the Chinese delegation visit was interesting.
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Old 06-10-2010 | 08:17 PM
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Interesting perspective Sakamano, thanks for adding that. Lets hope the rest of the world doesn't drop to what we have in the US. Our best hope for better pay and work rules here is an ATP rule for 121 ops... perhaps with user fees coming in at a close second; the latter of which, I hope never happens. Either way, it's going to take a shortage of pilots to make life better at the regional level.
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Old 06-10-2010 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Diver Driver
Interesting perspective Sakamano, thanks for adding that. Lets hope the rest of the world doesn't drop to what we have in the US. Our best hope for better pay and work rules here is an ATP rule for 121 ops... perhaps with user fees coming in at a close second; the latter of which, I hope never happens. Either way, it's going to take a shortage of pilots to make life better at the regional level.
agreed.......
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Old 06-11-2010 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BobSakamano
I think Skywest/ASA have opened the doors to bringing the US Regional Airline business model to the rest of the world. China and the Far East are all high yield markets that don't need to "cost cut", but will adapt if handed the opportunity as ASA has done.

God help expats looking for reasons to justify the awful lifestyle if Comair throws their hat into the ring too. I doubt they are, just thought it was interesting that the Chinese came to see Comair of all regionals (since Comair's costs are so "out of line").

MakersMarc: bringing back furloughs is good (I'm one of the ones close to making the cut) but doing damage to one of the last frontiers of lucrative flying is what ASA/SkyWest have done with the Air Mekong deal and I hope that Comair isn't considering it too. As you know, flying overseas is not glamorous and the higher pay isn't as high as it sounds after factoring in the risks, lack of job security, time away from family and much more.
Actually, I'm surprised it's taken this long. Once the Wal-Mart effect is introduced, it'll never return to the way it was. But if all the ex-pats bail, they'll have to do something. What drives the ex-pat market in the first place - lack of native crews?
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