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mosquito 10-24-2008 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by mumu (Post 485019)
How about this scenario...

Mesa's stock hits rock bottom and just before de-listing SkyWest comes in and buys them for pennies on the dollar at the 11th hour. SkyWest already has code share with UA and DL. Problem solved. No more J.O. and no more Comair.


Don't think that might happen because that will give Skywest 60-70% of DCI flying. And delta doesnt' want to a single carrier that much coverage. Hench the 9 DCI carrier (soon to be 7 or less).

airdog 10-24-2008 06:01 PM

There's alot of noise on Flightinfo about Mesaba being the centerpiece after the merger...below is excerpt from an analyst conference call with Delta, any comments?
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Raymond Neidl - Calyon Securities


Switching to the smaller aircraft, you are going to have partnerships with almost every regional airline out there, plus you’re going to own a number of regional airlines. Is there any thought to maybe consolidating that and making that a little bit more streamlined.

Douglas M. Steenland


I think the ratio, the consolidation with our regional jet both carefully owned carriers as well as our contracts is a big opportunity for the combined airline. And yes, we expect there to be of significant shuffling of the deck, as well as some cost value out of realigning our portfolio.

Richard Anderson


The great piece here is between Compass and Mesaba you have the very best operators in cost structure. So, our goal with our contract carriers is to bring their margins down over time to more accurately reflect the overall margins in the industry. And Compass and Mesaba will give us that ability to shift flying from contract carriers to owned carriers at much better CASM.
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TristarJS30 10-24-2008 06:03 PM

Wasn't that from last April?

RiddleEagle18 10-24-2008 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by TristarJS30 (Post 485117)
Wasn't that from last April?

Yep...........

bored 10-24-2008 07:15 PM

It might have been from last April, but the facts still remain. Mesaba and especially Compass have young work groups which translates to decreased costs. Compass, because they're brand new and Mesaba because of our bogus trip through butt kicking bankruptcy.

Further, Compass and Mesaba have streamlined back of the house activities except for HR and operations (SOC and training), which saves money. Regarding performance, I can only speak for Mesaba, but our performance numbers are very good... you just don't ever hear about them because they're not reported to the DOT.

Which ever way the chips fall, it shall be interesting. It's finally nice to be on the side of good fortune at Mesaba.

DoubleD 10-24-2008 08:59 PM

Mesaba, but our performance numbers are very good... you just don't ever hear about them because they're not reported to the DOT.

Which ever way the chips fall, it shall be interesting. It's finally nice to be on the side of good fortune at Mesaba.[/quote]


Living in Grand Forks I only live with the routine CNX of Mesaba and Peanuckle flights when the booking are too low. Very aggrevating for the passengers and now I only book on the mainline! As for the crews I'm sure it's frustrating for you too.

H46Bubba 10-24-2008 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by bored (Post 485152)
It might have been from last April, but the facts still remain. Mesaba and especially Compass have young work groups which translates to decreased costs. Compass, because they're brand new and Mesaba because of our bogus trip through butt kicking bankruptcy.

Further, Compass and Mesaba have streamlined back of the house activities except for HR and operations (SOC and training), which saves money. Regarding performance, I can only speak for Mesaba, but our performance numbers are very good... you just don't ever hear about them because they're not reported to the DOT.

Which ever way the chips fall, it shall be interesting. It's finally nice to be on the side of good fortune at Mesaba.

The streamlining has begun here at Comair as far as back office stuff. I guess we're suppossed to join you guys and Compass at MCHoldings here in the next few months. Let the whipsaw begin! :rolleyes:

mumu 10-25-2008 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by mosquito (Post 485077)
Don't think that might happen because that will give Skywest 60-70% of DCI flying. And delta doesnt' want to a single carrier that much coverage. Hench the 9 DCI carrier (soon to be 7 or less).

That's true at the moment but 1) after NW and DL merge it won't be 60-70% because Compass and Mesaba will be DCI carriers and that percentage will be diluted, 2) SkyWest includes ASA and 3) the flying wouldn't necessarily be all DL. UA has that elusive RFP still on the table.

Paok 10-25-2008 07:54 AM

Shout out to Andy for getting his pic on Epic..............your famous,,

andy171773 10-25-2008 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by Paok (Post 485309)
Shout out to Andy for getting his pic on Epic..............your famous,,


haha, i love how in all the pics of JFK crews none are wearing ties.

Telicia said i was going to be on the main page, but they didn't know who i was!



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