Foxcow

So I made a spelling error. Big deal. It doesn't matter if Parks is the oldest and the first flight school in the country. The place is not what it used to be. I know some pretty damn good pilots that came from there, and many pilots that are not worth the plastic that their license that are made of that went through there.


Now that I know the difference between throw, through, and thru, I will be able to sleep at night.

Pilotpip

Fox, I'd never insult another university program or anybody that paid their dues unless it was a little playful bantering which is usually dished right back. I'm not a fan of the zero to hero programs at all and I don't hide that fact. Most of the people that washed out of my class were ATP and CAPT type programs and a couple were very arrogant about it.

Spooner seems have trouble with people picking on him or the airline he works for but it's fine for him to chime in with snide remarks when it's another airline. Taking a dig at a "bottom feeder" regional is a pretty cocky thing to do when you also work at one.

Foxcow

Yup, it has been a little over a year and I am hoping for November upgrade. I just missed October.

Mr Spooner

Here we go again. I am not saying Colgan has not hired low time. If you want to start a thread called "Colgan upgrade down to 13 months" I would leave a post stating expect street captains at Colgan (they are coming).

My initial point was when airlines start to lower their minimums too low, upgrade availibility will be an option. It is simple math that if you hire at 300-500 hours it will take some time for them to have the required hours for ATP, no less upgrade.

Kind of funny SAAB, you are known as the Colgan basher and I am being known as the Colgan lover. Just goes to show how to people can have two totally different experiences at the same place.

And for the record I do not love Colgan...I like the pilots I fly with and I like flying the Saab. Mgmt does not bother me and pay is not bad when you can fill your belly each month on open time.

JoeyMeatballs

ahhhhh no hard feelings man, its never personal, besides I may need you to walk my resume in over there for a Street CA, things at the moment are looking somewhat "unstable" here, CAL is increasing the CLE hub by 40% (the airplanes are coming from EWR)

cybourg10

I was in the 9/5/06 TSA class (now at XJT). It is scary to think that some of those guys/girls will be sitting in the left seat. They are all good people but very few, including myself, are not mentally ready to take command of a jet with less than one year one the line. TSA training is tough though so hopefully they will weed out those who shouldn't be wearing 4 stripes. I'm guessing we will see some TSA planes taking a few wrong turns in ORD this winter......fly safe.

Mr Spooner

SAAB, you will always have a home here at Colgan

Koolaidman

Ghilis,

Why vote ALPA? I am happy without it. Where do you fly? What has ALPA done for you? ALPA is not going to raise our quality of life, if they were, don't you think OUR parent company would have come to terms with ASA by now? Or let me guess, we are the ones holding ASA down, right? Because they can transfer the flying to us cheaper?

If you want ALPA, fly for an ALPA carrier. I don't feel threatened for my job like a did at your fellow ALPA carrier Trans States. The majority of people who fly here are happy. We have good work rules without a union, we have the ability to say NO to junior assignments and good schedules. Our first year pay is low, our RJ CA pay is a little above average and our EMB is among the best 30 seat in the industry.

I don't know why everyone has such a beef with SkyWest? We don't hire 250 hour wonders that "bring down the industry" like you all think. We don't underbid everyone like everyone else thinks. If that were the case, I assume we would have picked up a lot more of the 900's. Instead, Comair, Mesa and Pinnacle were awarded around 14 aircraft per company. So the "non-union" guys underbidding everyone argument doesn't hold water; in my opinion.

SkyWest pilots don't leave SkyWest to go elsewhere and get the "protection" that is apparently needed by the current guys holding the ALPA drive. One of the hardcore "let's get ALPA here now" guys was fired and got his job back. He feels that ALPA is necessary for people to get their job back after being "unjustly" fired. However, he got his job back without ALPA, so I don't understand his point? This happened years ago.

Funny how you corrected me for correcting someone who is a professional airline pilot. We all sit here and complain about not being paid enough, yet people don't know how to spell "throw" and "through", or "lose" and "loose". At least I had the class not to call the guy "snooty SkyWest ...hole". Making fun of someone is one thing, but calling someone an a..hole over a forum is another.

And of course, I will get mauled because I don't share the same views as you do about ALPA. It happens every time with every ALPA supporter out there. What is your answer to the current US Airways/Amercia West deal? A decision was made by an arbitrator, yet the pilots at US Airways don't want to accept it. The decision was made in court! How can you argue that? And then have the nerve to sue!

It is people like you that make forums like this useless. I poked a little fun at someone because they can't spell a word learned in fifth grade. Foxcow, I apologize. If you want to continue this conversation and call me whatever, at least do it via a PM.

flynavyj

spooner, i thought u guys were filling your bellies @ night with ramen?

Yep, 13 months, have a couple guys junior to me in this months class, told em i'd be ready next month...haven't decided if i really want it or not, but eh, we'll see.

Mr Spooner

spooner, i thought u guys were filling your bellies @ night with ramen?

Actually, plenty of the Colgan crew meals, you know, 2 bags of snack mix.