Questions for the Regional pilots
#22
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No problem. I'm guessing that since you are a FAC, that you are a Marine F-18 pilot?
If so, I just have a few questions. I wasn't military. Do all Marine aviators have to do a tour as a FAC/TAC, or just the ones that flew aircraft with guns/weapons on them? Also, is the FAC tour always done towards the end of your flying career or can it be done at any time?
Thanks.
If so, I just have a few questions. I wasn't military. Do all Marine aviators have to do a tour as a FAC/TAC, or just the ones that flew aircraft with guns/weapons on them? Also, is the FAC tour always done towards the end of your flying career or can it be done at any time?
Thanks.
The requirement is 2 years of operational flying before you can be sent on a FAC tour, but there is not requirement for actual experience other than that. I've seen guys who are patch wearers and guys who didn't even get a section lead qual both sent on a FAC tour after their first fleet tour. Fleet tours are typically 3 years. Some guys will go do something else, such as training command, career schools, etc, and then go back to the fleet, so not every Marine pilot has to do a FAC tour. FACs are normally company grade, ie senior Lt's or Capt's. If a pilot is coming off or sometimes on the way to his second or third fleet tour, they might again be pulled for something similar only they will be an Air Officer instead of a FAC. FAC is typically considered on the Company level in an infantry batallion, Air Officer on the Battalion level is typically the senior FAC in the batallion and the AO on the regimental level is usually a field grade pilot, ie a Major. So, if they don't catch you for a FAC tour after your first flying tour, they might get you after your second for an AO tour. Usually they try to keep these to less than 12 months for fighter guys do to the requirement for us to refresh. Essentially we turn into a pumpkin after 12 months and lose most if not all of our quals. For helicopter and backseat guys, I think its 18 months.
Probably more than you wanted but hopefully that explains it.
#23
1) I have been flying for the regionals for a year.
2) I intend to fly for the regionals for 2-3 years total.
3) I don't know about my "threshold." That mainly depends on the market at the time that I'm looking to get out (1000 TPIC). Right now, if one of my "top 3" wasn't immediately possible, I'd take the first LCC/Legacy to give me a job. A good corporate/fractional gig would also be tempting.
My advice would be to round up your contacts to see if you have any chances at the big iron...if not, hit a regional and hope you hit the upgrade quickly so you can move on.
Good luck.
2) I intend to fly for the regionals for 2-3 years total.
3) I don't know about my "threshold." That mainly depends on the market at the time that I'm looking to get out (1000 TPIC). Right now, if one of my "top 3" wasn't immediately possible, I'd take the first LCC/Legacy to give me a job. A good corporate/fractional gig would also be tempting.
My advice would be to round up your contacts to see if you have any chances at the big iron...if not, hit a regional and hope you hit the upgrade quickly so you can move on.
Good luck.
#25
Theses 10 yr CA's have lost sight of their goals. On the other hand, where is the incentive to lose benefits and several years of pay by making the jump to a major. Its a double edge sword. However, the five to seven year FO's should move on or take the quickest upgrade before they end up like the 10yr+ CA's at at a regional. Keep you're eye on the prize!
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