ok so youre sitting this one out? This is a critical turning point for the industry. And yet you still want to come out reaping the benefits of other peoples work? Are you the Drew Bledsoe of the industry? At least he had an excuse he got injured.

 

when we have a stream of crashes due to "unexperienced crews" in the next few years, that sure as hell will get their attention. Most passengers have blind faith in the flight crew. They believe the crew is looking out for themselves, as long as they are sitting in the back as a passenger they will be alright. And a lot of it is brand name, when they board, they see Delta on the side of the plane. The passenger thinks " ah delta they are one of the best....these guys must have the best of the best training" I have been asked about 12 times if you have to go to the airforce to learn how to fly. Most people think we're all military trained.

Now I am 24, i have shaggy hair, NO ITS NOT SPIKED, i am not exactly in "tip top" military shape, and I have a bunch of various musical groups, alterego jet, cardinals and louisville stickers all over my flight kit. I dont know how people in their right mind think I am military material. It boggles my mind. But in the minds of a passenger, their pilot is some super trained, top gun, best there is, used to be a test pilot, pilot.
As far as they are concerened, they spent 2 hours on expedia looking for the cheapest round trip they could and they got a good deal. So they feel that since they paid 268 dollars for round trip, that "Delta" better do their damn best to not be late and **** him off, because he spent "hard earned" money on his ticket.
There is only one flight, airplane, crew and airport in their world,.....theirs! Most americans are idiots in the first place, and some of our passengers make me question the future of the human race.

So you are right, trying to speak with them and enlighten them of OUR situation, will do nothing. They will have already forgotten your words by the time they squeeze their fat ass in 1A and plug in their iPod to jam out to the new Toby Keith CD. But when a few aircraft run off the runway in a small period of time, and US commercial aviations dirty little secret gets out. I think the public might start to realize that pilots are now treated like bus drivers, if not worse, and that their desire for the cheapest tickets so they can expand their double wide, combined with all the MBA holding, greedy, weasle "think for your-selfers" CEOS. Has driven this job into the crapper.


on the other hand, i love the life section of USA Today, good landings, and it does make me feel good when an "elder citizen" says simply "thanks for getting us here safely"

 

i dunno, i dont think there will be any wave of crashes. the most inexperienced pilots have been flying the most difficult airplanes - B1900's and EMB-120's for years. If you think an RJ is harder to fly than those TProp deathtraps then I dont know what to tell you. I wouldnt fly those airplanes even if they gave me $150 an hour to do it, but id entertain $180 or so

At any rate, RJ's are idiot proof and i doubt any RJ accidents can be attributed to inexperience. Case study anyone? Comair and Pinnacle both had experienced crews

 

i am not talking about catastrophes. but more and more instances of running off of runways, emergency fuel situations.....things along those lines. Your right, the ERJ was built in the jungle and designed for people to fly it with those large discs in their lip. Its an idiot proof jungle jet! But if you dont put enough gas in it, or if it runs off of a runway....doesnt really matter how easy the airplane is to "fly" will a captain with less than 1000 in type and 121 experience really know the limitations of the aircraft on a blowing snow runway in SYR when his FO right off of OE just doubled his total multi engine time on his last trip. Most of the times yes, but there are a lot of flights and i believe the experience and authority level of captains is going and will be going down very quickly, especially at your "crappy" regionals

 

i fail to see your point. an Emirates 777 went off a taxiway in Heathrow last week, SWA 737 overran the runway at MDW in an absolutely terrible snowstorm (everyone else diverted) 2 winters ago

Nothing spells recipe for disaster worse than fatigue and poor scheduling. Crews arent making these mistakes due to experience, its due to trying to turn an airplane in 28 minutes while trying to get all the information thats being shoved in your face (fuel, wx, other factors). it flat out sucks and everyone is prone to making those mistakes. some might argue the MOST experienced crews will make more of these types of mistakes because they can become more apathetic

 

LOL!!!!!!!!

 

LOL is right, haha. So I guess I'm making a deathwish everyday when I go to work??!

 

Once again SkyHigh, you are right on target..speaking the Truth that others don't have the courage to.

 

Thats the TRUTH!!!

 

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