This statement has nothing to do with if I will or will not vote union. Either way I feel that Unity with ASA is important for both pilot groups. Let's say that SKW votes the union down. How does that make us any less your "bretheren" out for the same cause, fair pay and good working conditions. Our pilot group will just have decided on a different way to obtain it but we would still have the same goal. I do feel that a united skw and asa pilot group can be a strong force.

 

pinnacle?? do they fly for delta??

 

Ok wow i was quoting someone else with the brethren thing. I'm sure ASA feels unity with skywest is essential also. I seriously doubt that ASA pilots want anything negative to come to Skywest pilots or any other pilots for that matter. The reason i mentioned ASA getting a contract was because i wanted to note what collective bargaining might get you. If Sapa can do the same thing then more power to you. I think that it is a little hard to have absolute unity among the two groups with one union and the other non-union. Two groups union meens ASA and Skywest pilots have some muscle. I seriously doubt that if skywest voted in a union, the union wouldn't try for rates anything less then what ASA just got on their TA.

 

Apparently so. According to Pinnacle's page under "Regionals" on the home page for APC, flying for Delta out of ATL and utilizing the 900 is to start in November.

I just checked PNCL's website and looked under the link for Corporate News and didn't see anything relating to the "flying arraingements" with Delta. They do however have a picture of the 900 in the Delta Connection livery under "Aircraft".


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Kangaroo, that might have sounded a little harsh than I meant it to. All I was trying to say is I hope we have unity with or without the union. I didn't mean to sound like I was ripping into you. I apologize.

 

Anybody wanna bet that either Mesa or Pinnacle do not get the 900 flying out of ATL. Pinnacle cannot even staff their current flying, let alone add a new aircraft type, open a new base for a new partner! Doesn't add up.
Mesa is in hugh difficulty with staffing and attrition, and financial difficulty as well. Add in legal trouble, and maybe Delta would be best served with ASA who is in their backyard already and poised to have labor peace for the forseeable future.

Any takers....

 

Agreed. Somebody will be picking up more DAL flying out of ATL, and I doubt it will be both Mesa and Pinnacle. But I hate rumors and I'm dying for some hard-core evidence here LoL

 

actually it will be pinnacle. vacancies have already been filled and the guys are getting checked out in the 900 right now.. plus they have to give us the minimum flying for the 10 year contract (pinnacle is purchasing the planes) or they have to pay penalties which add up more then the cost of the 17 900's we are starting out with. uncle phil has already stated that we will not lose the delta flying and he will do anything to keep it and make it grow, its his little baby. the nwa flying is what will suffer, not delta. there is a company conference call tomorrow by uncle phil himself, he is supposedly announcing our new mx bases and the type of flying we will be doing for delta out of atlanta... slc, and lax are future bases, and yes we will have bases there. we had 1100 pilots on the seniority list about 9 months ago, now we have a little over 1400,, getting people here isn't the probably, getting them to stay is, but they don't care about attrition, keeps it cheap.

 

Amazing what cheap rates and crummy contract can do for you!
Congrats on your 900's and growth, though......

 

They are losing 15 CRJ's to Mesaba, that will offset some of the staffing issue