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Old 10-02-2007 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
It is much better for the low timer than wasting time as a CFI to go strait to a regional if it is being offered, and a pain for the captain.
Huh? CFI time is wasted time? You've GOT to be frickin kidding me. Oh yeah, I forgot. This is the age of ADHD, of instant gratification. Don't earn your knowledge, which incidentally may save your life some day. Just take the quickest shortcut you can. Go upgrade as soon as possible at the bottom feeder of the month.
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Old 10-02-2007 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguyniner11
i'd say get on as soon as u can, 121 turbine time is more valuable than 91time in a 152
I truly feel sorry for you if this is how you really feel.
Do you have any pride whatsoever? Flying is not all about crudentials and turbine time. People like you are what bring this industry down. This profession should be reserved for true aviators, not guys with turbine time in a logbook and an internal reccomendation a major.
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Old 10-02-2007 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
I dont know about you but when the shiat hits the fan, I rather have a competent FO with experience on hand than a 800hr vfr skydiving pilot sitting next to me.
I remember when the regionals were asking for 1500tt min...
800hrs or 1500hrs as a skydive pilot makes no difference....

1000hrs or 2000 as a 172 instructor makes no difference....

My point is.... When the shait hits the fan, it comes down to your knowledge of the airplane and how well you fly it, not how many hours you spent watching a instrument student fly appoaches.
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Old 10-02-2007 | 06:38 PM
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My point is.... When the shait hits the fan, it comes down to your knowledge of the airplane and how well you fly it, not how many hours you spent watching a instrument student fly appoaches.
Not completely true.
When $hit hits the fan, it is about having the experience and confidence to:
1.) Not freak the hell out.
2.) Diagnose the problem and fix it.
When somebody has all the knowledge of the airplane in the world, but only 300 total time, they might not have the experience and confidence to deal with an abnormal or emergency situation. Generally, the best way to gauge a person's experience level is by total time.

Oh and then there is this. Your comment about 152 time not being revelent, that is wrong. An airplane is an airplane, basic trainer or passenger jet, it doesn't matter. They are both subject to the exact same set of laws and aerodynamics.
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Old 10-02-2007 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by s10an
800hrs or 1500hrs as a skydive pilot makes no difference....

1000hrs or 2000 as a 172 instructor makes no difference....

My point is.... When the shait hits the fan, it comes down to your knowledge of the airplane and how well you fly it, not how many hours you spent watching a instrument student fly appoaches.
Knowing the airplane through and through is standard practice whether you have 200 or 2000 hours whether it's a Cessna or a CRJ. It is not a replacement for experience gained. You are wrong, experience makes a difference. Time spent "watching" a student is time spent learning how to make safe decisions. I feel bad for the people in the back of an airplane with a pilot who has a mindset which doesn't value experience.
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Old 10-02-2007 | 06:53 PM
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Knowing the airplane through and through is standard practice whether you have 200 or 2000 hours whether it's a Cessna or a CRJ. It is not a replacement for experience gained. You are wrong, experience makes a difference. Time spent "watching" a student is time spent learning how to make safe decisions. I feel bad for the people in the back of an airplane with a pilot who has a mindset which doesn't value experience.
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Old 10-02-2007 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ehaeckercfi
Not completely true.
When $hit hits the fan, it is about having the experience and confidence to:
1.) Not freak the hell out.
2.) Diagnose the problem and fix it.
When somebody has all the knowledge of the airplane in the world, but only 300 total time, they might not have the experience and confidence to deal with an abnormal or emergency situation. Generally, the best way to gauge a person's experience level is by total time.

Oh and then there is this. Your comment about 152 time not being revelent, that is wrong. An airplane is an airplane, basic trainer or passenger jet, it doesn't matter. They are both subject to the exact same set of laws and aerodynamics.
I agree with you...
1)When it comes to freaking out, total time does not reflect your ability to handle high stress situations.
2) As i said... system knowledge will help you diagnose a lot of problems.

I never compared a 300hr guy with a 2000 hr guy... I am saying there comes a point when as a CFI when your learning curve flattens out.. Therefore my comment on 1000hrs vs 2000 hrs....

After all... you can fly 5000 hrs with no problems or 1000 with a couple emergencies...

And yeah... I did instruct for 2 years.
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Old 10-02-2007 | 06:54 PM
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For everyone who is bagging on the low time guys, what say you to the men and women flying for the majors or retired who were hired on back in the late 70's and 80's...or even prior, who had a commercial (no multi) instrument and were hired on with places like TWA? Tell me they're horrible pilots now that they are managers at a bunch of airlines. I think every person is different as to their ability to make decisions and experience can be a factor, but not always flying experience per say.
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Old 10-02-2007 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by A10crewdawg
For everyone who is bagging on the low time guys, what say you to the men and women flying for the majors or retired who were hired on back in the late 70's and 80's...or even prior, who had a commercial (no multi) instrument and were hired on with places like TWA? Tell me they're horrible pilots now that they are managers at a bunch of airlines. I think every person is different as to their ability to make decisions and experience can be a factor, but not always flying experience per say.
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Old 10-02-2007 | 06:58 PM
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Some guys are much better and competent pilots at 300hrs then some guys at 3000. Its not the amount of hrs its the quality and the quality of the person. If you think you can make it at the regionals at 400hrs or whatever then go for it. I agree that instructing is good experiance but lots of people never went that route and many flight instructors get lazy even if they have tons of hrs. I think with what those regionals pay 300hrs all they should require.

Anyway, just be sure you can make it through training or else your screwed.
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