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Old 10-16-2007 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SharkyBN584
As I said before, I like having you around. Some of your posts have contained some valuable information about life after flying if it doesn't work out. However, your post provided no information, stated no facts, and was no more than a charged up sarcastic response to someone asking for help. I don't agree with it getting pulled down, but I'm not a moderator. At the same time, I thought your post was the most worthless one I've ever seen from you (and almost from anyone else), so I can't really blame them.
I was merely pointing out the irony and futile endeavor aviation is due to the stated high sacrifices made to get a job that pays less than that of a convenience store clerk.

I think that the parallel I made was valid and of importance to someone who hadn't made that connection yet. I merely presented the facts in accurate terms. The fact that some found it offensive says more about the reader than of what I wrote.

Perhaps it is better to remain in a state of denial?

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Old 10-16-2007 | 09:15 AM
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"to get a job that pays less than that of a convenience store clerk."

Gross exaggeration.


"I merely presented the facts in accurate terms."

Facts in your mind don't really make them facts. You prove on a daily basis that one guys fact is the next guys fallacy.

"The fact that some found it offensive says more about the reader than of what I wrote"

The post was deleted because it contained nothing of use. It was a sarcastic retort with no goal other than to flame. You can do better, Sky, like the post above this one.

"Perhaps it is better to remain in a state of denial?"

I think you are. Some people want to fly and some people find the costs worth it. Just cause you don't doesn't make it "a fact" that flying for a living is a poor choice for all.....
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Old 10-16-2007 | 09:17 AM
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Hopefully my man Sky hasn't killed this thread, because I am just looking for a little input if you all don't mind. Right now I am sitting on 872TT/12multi. By November that multi should be up to around 60 being; I bought 40 some hours at the local FBO. I have been working and surviving private pilot students for about a year now. The job is fun, but doesn't quite pay the bills.(My parents illustrate this point quite often) Just wondering what a low timer like myself should do to be marketable to the regionals? Which regionals I realistically might be marketable to once I have 1000/60? Any regionals that might kick some money your way for getting me onboard?(Share the wealth) Should I splurge on the CRJ/any regional transition course? Please no "get your CFII or MEI" unless the regionals just want to see it on paper, because there is no desire in my part of the globe for instrument ratings or the planes to give multi-engine instruction at the fbo I work.
On a side note, I must say that it was my honor to have given Mr. Skyhigh his Biennial Flight Review. Good times!! I feel like I have a stronger desire to be a pilot after his verbal onslaught againtst the profession. He really isn't that bad, but without hearing his voice and instead just reading poo flung at the industry you may not like him. Good luck everyone and Blue Skies to all!
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Old 10-16-2007 | 09:28 AM
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"I must say that it was my honor to have given Mr. Skyhigh his Biennial Flight Review."

You flew that thing after I did a high speed pass under the Vantage bridge? I guess I should have said something to Sky about that.....

Just kidding. It's a good running machine and he got it at a great price.

"Any regionals that might kick some money your way for getting me onboard?"

Naw, it doesn't work that way, yet, as far as I know. I've heard of signing bonuses but they go to the guy who recruits you or give them to people with previous advanced experience.

If you're at 1000/60, you are pretty close to 1200, at which point you'd be a shoe in for 135 freight, like Amflight. Also, at 1000/60, I'd bet there are some regionals you could get on at. Even less time than that. You're new, I hope you can use the search function. I'd spend some time at the regional fourms as they are often talking about hiring mins and who's hiring.

I'd say no reason to do an RJ course. They are a waste of time, first of all, designed to get you in the door with very low quals. You already have enough time for me to say you shouldn't bother with that.

Where do you instruct out of?
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Old 10-16-2007 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
"to get a job that pays less than that of a convenience store clerk."

Gross exaggeration.
You're right.

It should read: to get a job that pays FAR less than that of a convenience store clerk.

Apologies to all the convenience store clerks out there.
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Old 10-16-2007 | 10:17 AM
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"You flew that thing after I did a high speed pass under the Vantage bridge? I guess I should have said something to Sky about that....."

If you feel that it was safe enough to do a high speed pass under the Vantage bridge, I guess I don't feel bad about all the spins and crazy ish Sky's brother put me through on his Biennial.

Where do you instruct out of?

Yakima, WA McCormick's

Oh and before I forget thanks for the input de727ups! I just don't know jack and don't want to jump to the regionals too early and especially not too late to get seniority!!
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Old 10-16-2007 | 10:22 AM
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What do they have for a twin, there? What are they charging you? You say they don't do any ME instruction but they still have a twin? Must be for charters.
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Old 10-16-2007 | 10:23 AM
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1000/60 will open alot of regional doors for you. Practically everyone will interview at those times, except maybe SkyWest, Eagle, XJT.....
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Old 10-16-2007 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
What do they have for a twin, there? What are they charging you? You say they don't do any ME instruction but they still have a twin? Must be for charters.

Actually the twin that I bought some block time in is the competition's Duchess. The cost for a block of 10 hours was $175 plus tax. I wish I could do multi-engine instruction in the plane, but I work for McCormick Air Center and Noland Decoto Flying Service owns the plane.
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Old 10-16-2007 | 12:00 PM
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Hey guys, do you think Comm. Multi and CFI with 1000/60 with no regional transition course has a shot though with Mesaba, ASA, or TSA. I know what the hiring minimums are as stated on this website, but it seems like the ATP applicants with the CRJ course would have an advantage over a cessna 172 captain like myself.
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