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Old 10-09-2007 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
My problem with the 400 hour guy with high multi is that he's probably never set foot outside the academy. His lack of real world experience limits what he can bring to the cockpit.

There is something to be said for having more time and getting that time in a challenging environment where nobody is holding your hand or telling you what to do.
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Youre right definitly attitude has a lot to do with it. I also think people perform MUCH differently depending on where you put them. A great FO might make a terrible captain, and a great captain could have been a terrible FO. you dont find these things out till you put them in that seat and observe, not matter how much experience or skill they have.

lower time pilots have a narrow picture of whats expected of a great aviator. They channelize and get overlyfocused and could lose sight of bigger things. Higher time pilots are able to take it all in. Their frame of reference is huge, it all seems so familiar.

Im still a relatively low timer but what Ive learned so far is that everyone still makes mistakes. the important thing is to get from point A to point B without scratching the airplane or losing your ticket. everything else (smooth landings and such) is just bonus points.
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Old 10-09-2007 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
My problem with the 400 hour guy with high multi is that he's probably never set foot outside the academy. His lack of real world experience limits what he can bring to the cockpit.

There is something to be said for having more time and getting that time in a challenging environment where nobody is holding your hand or telling you what to do.

I'm not a big fan of pilot factories. In the end, both pilots could suck or both could bend over to give their best effort. Attitude is an important thing. And there is no substitute for experience.
Amen Brotha!!!
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Old 10-09-2007 | 08:09 AM
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"lower time pilots have a narrow picture of whats expected of a great aviator. They channelize and get overlyfocused and could lose sight of bigger things."

I like that. To a degree, that's true even for a high time airline pilot switching to a new aircraft. But then...

"Higher time pilots are able to take it all in. Their frame of reference is huge, it all seems so familiar."

Again, well said. The high time airline pilot switching airframes STILL has the frame of reference as an AIRLINE PILOT. He brings a lot to the cockpit even though he's still struggling with a new machine. Our experiences as pilots, from day one, are put into a knowledge base still valid at the 10,000th hour.

You can make the argument that training a pilot a certain way with certain screening and bring them quickly to a high level. After all, the military does it. I agree that training makes a big difference but I don't believe we train or screen to that level at ANY flight academy in the US. Here you train in a 150 hp light single, not a 1000 hp turbine with an ejection seat. Here, if you can write the check, you are in. It just isn't the same.

"what Ive learned so far is that everyone still makes mistakes."

So, so, true. That's why it's important to bring the highest level possible of experience and background to the right seat. You NEED that guy in the right seat to have the confidence to speak up and the knowledge to help you out. This takes time and experience to develop. Airline pilot should not be an entry level job....
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Old 10-09-2007 | 04:31 PM
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I would rather stick pins in my eyes than do either.
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