Like others have said, barring any unforseen nightmare like another 9/11, it is still a fantastic time to get in...Don't delay - seniority is everything LoL

 

Thanks I know it is.....

 

I don't know how it turned into a ATP ad since you've never been there and that was not the point of my post. Point is they can get you your ratings fast but they are over priced...by say $20-25K and you are being taught to pass the checkride and only the checkride. He could get his ratings as several different places, buy a twin, and still come out ahead of the deal when he sold it.
I have no affiliation with PAS other than being a former patron and have nothing to gain by others money spent there. They offer a good product at a fair price and that is why I endorse them.

 

Well Boiler Up and let's up this weekend's game against Michigan is better than the OSU game was!

I lived right down the block from you, 314 W Fowler, last time I was in town, I was pleased that though it had new siding, it was still standing! You never know when they'll turn those premium across the street from campus houses into apartments.

 

He asked for people's opinions about ATP, I gave him mine. Whether or not my opinion is right doesn't really matter, and is up to rickdb to decide.
Well, that's not "no affiliation" but that's also a perfectly good reason to endorse them. Maybe next time instead of calling me a jackass you can say "Hey, it may not sound like the coolest thing in the world, but I was a former customer, and aside from enjoying his company, I have to say that I really learned a lot from having an 18000 hour A&P instructor engineer looking over my shoulder and essentially giving me free instruction." Had you put it like that, I would have said "You know, you're right, I'm sorry that I put down something that wasn't familiar to me." and we could have avoided that whole boring rant from me.

And speaking as a person who would defend "my" Mom and Pop FBO (I use the term literally) to the death, I am sorry if I offended you.

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Oh, and maybe we can all learn from this and not jump down people's throats and/or insult something that we have little or no knowledge over? These forums would be a lot more constructive without people being sarcastic jackasses like me.

 

Fair enough, sorry if I was a jackass in my response. I didn't do the timebuilding thing there...I don't even think it existed back then and don't know how often they do it now. I did go IFR thru MEI back in the day. So he was next me rather than in the back. Group hug everbody.

 

I know what you mean...I dont think that all the houses are going to be converted. My senior year, they tore two houses down across the street and put up apartments. They played horrible against OSU. By the what year did you graduate?

 

"As an outsider going into ATP for my CFI's, I can say that their training, in my opinion, left some to be desired..."

You hear that a lot at this site. I think it's a product of cramming to much into a short time.

"in your opinion, do you think it is a good time to become a pilot"

Yes, if you really want to fly for a living and wouldn't be happy doing anything else. It's not the job it used to be, though, and the really good jobs are few and far between.

 

I'm not the most up beat person when it comes to this industry, but I sense this hiring trend will be here for a good period time to come. There has been a major major shift in the way the industry works,things have changed- there is more than just a hiring cycle going in here. Kids are not learning to fly any more, cats outa the bag- everyone knows how cost prohibitive flight training is and it's just not a desired career path anymore....that being said, if you can stay debt free or close to it, enjoy flying- never ever been a better time to get in.

 

I definitely understand where you are coming from with ATP. With their fast track program (90 days), it does seem like it is cramming alot of information into a small timeframe. With that being said, I think it is still possible to go through a program like that and be a "good pilot". I think it just depends on the individual, but I definitely understand your point of view. Timeframe is of utmost importance to me, so I am looking for the fastest, cost effective, and most efficient route out there.

In regards to the job isnt like it used to be, I have been told that by many individuals. Pilots used to be treated as kings, now they are treated like crap.

Thanks for the insight.