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ToiletDuck 10-18-2007 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 249268)
yeah $280.000.000.00 in the bank, we are def feeling the crunch:rolleyes:

$328.800.000 per year in aircraft leasing alone. Not to mention all the departmental budgets and payrolls. Makes that $280 mil shrink.

FlyByCable 10-18-2007 12:55 PM

What's up with Mesa bidding to take over your flying for CAL? Kellner said that he's going to shed TWO big suppliers shortly. Is XJT one of them?

aero550 10-18-2007 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 249253)
Can the 145 be ferry-permitted for that trip? I'm sure it can't be ETOPS certified...how would they get the birds there anyway - Australia is so far over water on all sides??

Worst case they could be island hopped all the way through Alaska, Russia, Japan, Taiwan, Phillipines, and New Guinea. You don't think they've gotten some western hemisphere RJ's down there some how already?

ToiletDuck 10-18-2007 01:08 PM

Chautauqua has a couple that use to be in Europe. I've wondered how they managed to get them here as well.

ChinsFive 10-18-2007 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 249306)
$328.800.000 per year in aircraft leasing alone. Not to mention all the departmental budgets and payrolls. Makes that $280 mil shrink.

Yeah but CAL still pays for roughly 75% of all our costs plus 5%-10%. They used to pay for everything plus 10%. Since they set 69 airplanes free and won an arbitration over the margins we were charging we aren't getting what we used to but it's still alot.

Just adding some prospective for you.

ExperimentalAB 10-18-2007 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by aero550 (Post 249311)
Worst case they could be island hopped all the way through Alaska, Russia, Japan, Taiwan, Phillipines, and New Guinea. You don't think they've gotten some western hemisphere RJ's down there some how already?

Yeah that's what I figured...and it sounds expensive enough to be prohibitive...

georgetg 10-18-2007 01:26 PM

...US airlines have operated in Australia before:

America West operated 3 737s down under for a while
during the pilot's dispute

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0046173/M/


Cheers
George

JoeyMeatballs 10-18-2007 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by FlyByCable (Post 249308)
What's up with Mesa bidding to take over your flying for CAL? Kellner said that he's going to shed TWO big suppliers shortly. Is XJT one of them?

hahhaah MESA will never fly , well most likely never fly for CAL, for many reasons, and I am curious to listen to our CONF call on Monday, who knows maybe CAL will cancel the CPA all together and just do a PRO-RATE deal, which would be a good thing, but even though CAL is posting huge profits the way Larry Kellner is running things over there will catch up to him eventually, you can only provide a great product on a shoe-string budget for so long, he is doing a great job of destroying everything that Gordon Bethune created.

JoeyMeatballs 10-18-2007 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 249306)
$328.800.000 per year in aircraft leasing alone. Not to mention all the departmental budgets and payrolls. Makes that $280 mil shrink.

Yeah genius and 75% of our income is a guaranteed one from CAL.................

fosters 10-18-2007 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 249355)
maybe CAL will cancel the CPA all together and just do a PRO-RATE deal, which would be a good thing

Why do you feel a pro-rate deal is better than cost + 10%?


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