The Company wants pilots to NOT vote, because a no vote is a NO vote. They've already instructed pilots to shred their voting credentials as soon as they receive them so that they don't accidentally vote.

Publishing information like the above "Exit Poll Results" is another way of encouraging pilots to NOT vote. If a pilot is in favor of representation, but fears retribution for voting, he might view the above results and misinterpret them as meaning he doesn't need to vote, because enough people have already voted FOR representation.

NOTHING COULD BE FARTHER FROM THE TRUTH! Every pilot needs to exercise his RIGHT to vote. Don't let The Company, or a puppet of The Company, fool you.

 

Really, my wife's told me I've been wrong before, at least I think she has.

But in my previous posting I based my assumption upon his wording and lack of comprehension, in which case I also said I don't know him.

 

I just got an email from ALPA OC telling me that I should vote for them because ALPA at ASA has better pay for every seat every year. I do believe that one thing the OC has been running on is that they would get better pay, granted I don't believe them, but that's what they keep telling me.

 

Well from the way it looks, hopefully none of them will be forced out of domicile, perhaps lower seniority, but IMO lower seniority on the jet still provides better trips/schedules then better seniority on the Bro.

 

I didn't vote yes based upon pay. There are much more important issues out there than a buck here or there. It's just unfortunate that that's what most “only” care about. Will we get a pay raise after a lengthy negotiation with Mgmnt? More than likely, but there are more pressing issues, issues that no one seems to care about until it's too late. I have car, health, life, dental, vision, home owners, lose of license, and short tern disability insurance. We can never cover ourselves to much. After all, our livelihood and our career’s are way to fragile to take an uninsured chance on.

 

This isn't true, remember that Mgmnt told us our 1st year CA rates are higher then ASA's. Thank God, I'm sure our 1st year RJ CA's care about that. Wait, we don't have any first year CA's. LOL! What a joke.

 

This thread (and poll) on the SAPA forum was started and frequented by openly pro-ALPA folks. But, obviously, it it mere entertainment.

I concur with your percentage (range) of voting.

 

Yes, the company has sent out instructions that clearly state the NMB rules. Not voting is the same as a no vote.

To my knowledge, no such direction has been sent to "shred the voting credentials" Perhaps poetic license on your behalf.



Neither the company, nor the current pilot association, put that "exit poll" up.



Every pilot has that RIGHT to vote. Don't worry, ALPA isn't taking any chances with the millions of dollars they are spending to get our votes. I received many, many mailings and emails from ALPA, naturally all encouraging me to vote. Far and above disproportionate to the company's actions to nofity pilots of their rights concerning voting.

I'm guessing I'm one of the puppets of the company, since I have not, nor do I intend, to vote for ALPA. Many of our pilots who have come from other ALPA carriers have openly expressed that they will not vote for ALPA. Major carriers are trying to get rid of ALPA.

ALPA has failed at SkyWest (and Colgan) in the past, and another union effort also has failed at SkyWest. Even if they win, it'll be close, but I don't think ALPA cares much about that.

They'll take money from all of us anyway, even if only 50% plus one vote it in.

 

"To my knowledge, no such direction has been sent to "shred the voting credentials" Perhaps poetic license on your behalf."

I may be mistaken but I think someone posted a letter or email from management asking people to shred their voting materials.

 

I completely agree, if ALPA comes on property the most important things they'll bring have little to do with pay. For me personally, I'd like to see 3rd party protection should the FAA or company come after me. Also on a smaller level, some things I would hope for in the contract, 14 hour max duty days, and 10 hour min rest in domicile. I live a quite a distance from ORD, and I've been reduced in domicile 3 times in the last year, and I either have to call in fatigued or find a hotel out of my own pocket, that's not right, but I digress.
Anyway I don't know why you thought I was one of "those" skywest pilots, I'm the first guy to say the Bro guys got skrewed, I was just saying a SMALL consolation was it appears that EVENTUALLY we'll all be RJ drivers.