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TonyWilliams 10-25-2007 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by av8tr_2007 (Post 252906)
I have to be back in the sim at 2am and pass. I don't know how I am going to do it. It is right in between a really long time to kill and too short of a time to sleep. At least I couldn't right now with the amount of caffeine I needed to stay awake for the 4pm meeting after this morning's 2am sim session.


There's really nothing you're going to learn between now and then, but you need the sleep.

Get off the GD computer, go get a half a shot of something and crawl into bed. Set the alarm first. Set three alarms.

Give yourself enough time to wake up, take a relaxing shower, and make it happen. The negative thoughts are gunna kill ya.

Look past the whole ordeal. You'll get to be back in bed by 6am.

bassslayer 10-25-2007 03:33 PM

Stick it out. I know 2 people who were let go from 121 programs and both were hired within a month or two at other regionals. Just be honest about what happened (they were) and you should have no problem. Especially in this market. If you really want to fly, don't give up. Like one of the earlier posters said, it's not the kiss of death it once was. I personally know someone who washed out at expressjet and now flys for another regional and loves life. MOral of the story: DON'T GIVE UP!

Bass

bassslayer 10-25-2007 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by TonyWilliams (Post 252915)
There's really nothing you're going to learn between now and then, but you need the sleep.

Get off the GD computer, go get a half a shot of something and crawl into bed. Set the alarm first. Set three alarms.

Give yourself enough time to wake up, take a relaxing shower, and make it happen. The negative thoughts are gunna kill ya.

Look past the whole ordeal. You'll get to be back in bed by 6am.


Great Advice

ceyoung 10-25-2007 04:14 PM

For those asking if there was more to the story, there is A LOT more to the story. I just got through training here, and I have had nothing but great experiences with all the staff and everyone of my instructors. Everyone in our class who had a POSITIVE attitude towards being here made it through. It just takes hard work, and the right attitude. For those that can't do both, you probably should choose another career.

Go back to Florida.

SharkyBN584 10-25-2007 04:27 PM

It seems to be hit or miss. I have no experience with the XJT program and have heard nothing but positives on this board. At the same time, my best friend went through it 6 months ago and described the training department as absolutely horrible for a multitude of reasons (he scored above a 90% on all tests and had zero ATR's in the sim). I have no opinion because I don't work there. I'm simply stating that what I've heard about the training department at XJT ranges from excellent to terrible (much like it does at CHQ).

ToiletDuck 10-25-2007 04:52 PM

I've heard the department is changing but that was from my half-arse flight saftey instructor that use to work in it. My friends that are there seemed to have liked it though. I've much worse about other places like Trans states.

The dude 10-25-2007 05:50 PM

If there is a problem in training at XJT I can almost guarantee that is is not with the department. There are not instructors there with a hard on for failing people and have not been since probably 2001 or 2. They are quick to fix problems. Not to say that there aren't sometimes, but the general attitude is to do all possible to help people get through. What good does it do XJT to give a guy several hours in a VERY expensive simulator and send him packing? They don't want to let you go, and if they do......it costs them money.

The dude 10-25-2007 05:52 PM

On a side note, I wish you the best of luck and promise you that if you have a good attitude and bust your butt in the books you'll be in the airplane before you know it. Don't give them a whiff of an attitude because that's the quickest way to get booted.

ERJ135 10-25-2007 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by av8tr_2007 (Post 252822)
Second one busted. Just over stupid stuff though. I didn't completely understand the flight guidance till now.

Hope the stuff I told you about the FGC tonight helps. Good luck.

BZNpilot248 10-25-2007 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by ceyoung (Post 252941)
For those asking if there was more to the story, there is A LOT more to the story. I just got through training here, and I have had nothing but great experiences with all the staff and everyone of my instructors. Everyone in our class who had a POSITIVE attitude towards being here made it through. It just takes hard work, and the right attitude. For those that can't do both, you probably should choose another career.

Go back to Florida.


Your right - I don't know the story, and maybe there is more to it - but what kind of attitude is this? You sure seem a bit harsh on the guy. Maybe there is more going on in his life that causes him to have misgivings about his career choice or what he's dealing with in training. I wonder how you'd feel flying preoccupied with things going on in your personal life, or running on little sleep or a bad meal or missed meal and your crew member basically shut you down or told you to take a hike and let him take care of the plane because you were a little sloppy while having a bad day/week/month. I don't say you have to like the guy but that doesn't mean you need to harbor any ill will or malice toward him like the go back to florida comment. :mad:


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