ASA and the CrJ-900
#43
Speaking of pulling together, I am not "most" pilots as I fly the 700 and am being offered an insulting 1.0% raise (77 cents per hour). Keep in mind this pay rate applies to up to 76 seats now (9% more seats) so the pay increase would need to be 9% more just to remain the same proportionally. Also keep in mind that the large RJ's are where the growth is, and that 200's and ATR's are not.
ASA pilots on the 200 and ATR need to stand unified on this issue and vote no on the TA. Even if you are not willing to stand up for your own brothers and sisters on the 700, realize from a selfish point of view that if you vote no, the TA can ONLY GET BETTER!
One of the most basic rules of negotiating is to never accept the first offer.
ASA pilots on the 200 and ATR need to stand unified on this issue and vote no on the TA. Even if you are not willing to stand up for your own brothers and sisters on the 700, realize from a selfish point of view that if you vote no, the TA can ONLY GET BETTER!
One of the most basic rules of negotiating is to never accept the first offer.
You see this is what im talking about...i knew you guys were gonna back me up at some point...hahaha. you got my support man....you deserve more....we all do!
#44
Speaking of pulling together, I am not "most" pilots as I fly the 700 and am being offered an insulting 1.0% raise (77 cents per hour). Keep in mind this pay rate applies to up to 76 seats now (9% more seats) so the pay increase would need to be 9% more just to remain the same proportionally. Also keep in mind that the large RJ's are where the growth is, and that 200's and ATR's are not.
ASA pilots on the 200 and ATR need to stand unified on this issue and vote no on the TA. Even if you are not willing to stand up for your own brothers and sisters on the 700, realize from a selfish point of view that if you vote no, the TA can ONLY GET BETTER!
One of the most basic rules of negotiating is to never accept the first offer.
ASA pilots on the 200 and ATR need to stand unified on this issue and vote no on the TA. Even if you are not willing to stand up for your own brothers and sisters on the 700, realize from a selfish point of view that if you vote no, the TA can ONLY GET BETTER!
One of the most basic rules of negotiating is to never accept the first offer.
So if your newly acquired guarantees add 150 hours to your pay then that's a 15% raise dependent on your block. You're not seeing this but you'll feel it! When you look back over your year and compare it to what you would have been paid under your old contract, you'll be amazed. You'll see one of two scenarios, either less block for the same pay or the same block for 15+% more pay. Either way you win!
So many pilots get caught up in the hourly rate and forget about its foundation. Guarantees & rigs are far more important than additional $2-3 an hour.
2nd Yr CR7 FO:
$2 more an hr on a 1000 hr yr. = $2000 MAX!
150 hrs of pay @ $37/hr = $5550 Variable!
4th Yr CA CR2:
$2 more an hr on a 1000 hr yr = $2000 MAX!
$4 more an hr on a 1000 hr yr = $4000 MAX!
150 hrs of pay @ $62 (?) = $9300 Variable!
My first full year on line I flew 989 hours and was paid for 1216 hours, yes it should have been more becuase 1st year pay is BS. I know several 3 & 4 year CA here at SKW that are making close $80K+ because they know how to work the system.
Do the math after 6 months and you'll see just how big of a raise you've just received! It's called a solid pay foundation.
Last edited by JetJock16; 10-28-2007 at 04:33 PM.
#48
Just one more reason folks need to get their head out of their arses and realize this ain't just an entry-level job anymore. Working for an RJ operator very well could be your LAST job, period...and with every CRJ-900 and E175 delivered that becomes more and more of a reality.
Pilots need to fight and be willing to make sacrifices (including striking) to get compensation and work rules requisite with the responsibility of flying larger aircraft...and if they aren't then they deserve every penny they don't get.
Pilots need to fight and be willing to make sacrifices (including striking) to get compensation and work rules requisite with the responsibility of flying larger aircraft...and if they aren't then they deserve every penny they don't get.
Then quit hiring entry level people.
#49
Lets get in the game SKW! Lets go RAH, AWAC and MAG!
#50
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I don't want to come off the wrong way but you’re getting caught up in an hourly rate. You seem to be forgetting your newly acquired quarantines and trip rig. I don't think you quite understand what this is going to do for you guys.
So many pilots get caught up in the hourly rate and forget about its foundation. Guarantees & rigs are far more important than additional $2-3 an hour.
It's called a solid pay foundation.
So many pilots get caught up in the hourly rate and forget about its foundation. Guarantees & rigs are far more important than additional $2-3 an hour.
It's called a solid pay foundation.



