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Old 10-25-2007 | 02:22 PM
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Now when this TA becomes concrete some things will obviously change. The ATR's are finally on their way out after three years of saying so, but these seats need to be replaced. Now its been said that Skywest does not like to fly out of ATL which is understandable.

My prediction and other "high-up" employees predictions is that ASA will take deliveries of the 900 and start flying it out of ATL to replace the ATR. If that happens, along with the new contract, ASA will truly be one of the ideal regionals to work for.
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Old 10-25-2007 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CaribPilot
Now when this TA becomes concrete some things will obviously change. The ATR's are finally on their way out after three years of saying so, but these seats need to be replaced. Now its been said that Skywest does not like to fly out of ATL which is understandable.

My prediction and other "high-up" employees predictions is that ASA will take deliveries of the 900 and start flying it out of ATL to replace the ATR. If that happens, along with the new contract, ASA will truly be one of the ideal regionals to work for.
Sorry to tell you this, the 900 is not that neat. I would rather fly a 900 that only said Delta on it. Also, not to be rude, but ASA is the step child of SkyWest. JA would rather see his baby grow, than ASA. With gas being as high as it is, losing the ATR will only hurt Delta's bottom line.
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Old 10-25-2007 | 02:44 PM
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Sorry to tell you this, the 900 is not that neat. I would rather fly a 900 that only said Delta on it. Also, not to be rude, but ASA is the step child of SkyWest. JA would rather see his baby grow, than ASA. With gas being as high as it is, losing the ATR will only hurt Delta's bottom line.
ok,, that is not true. ASA maybe the step child of skywest, but after spending 425million dollars to buy them, i seriously doubt uncle jerry wants asa to be on the back burner. why would he take an airline he purchased for 425m dollars and turn it into a 10million dollar operation. he is still cleaning house over at asa and you will soon see asa start to regain their footing. skywest shareholders success is now directly linked to asa success. its like for us here at pinnacle,, if colgan were to tank it would take with it all the money the company put into it,, which was chump change by the way.
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Old 10-25-2007 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by otter
Sorry to tell you this, the 900 is not that neat. I would rather fly a 900 that only said Delta on it. Also, not to be rude, but ASA is the step child of SkyWest. JA would rather see his baby grow, than ASA. With gas being as high as it is, losing the ATR will only hurt Delta's bottom line.
The Q400 is also a possibility.
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Old 10-25-2007 | 02:59 PM
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ok,, that is not true. ASA maybe the step child of skywest, but after spending 425million dollars to buy them, i seriously doubt uncle jerry wants asa to be on the back burner. why would he take an airline he purchased for 425m dollars and turn it into a 10million dollar operation. he is still cleaning house over at asa and you will soon see asa start to regain their footing. skywest shareholders success is now directly linked to asa success. its like for us here at pinnacle,, if colgan were to tank it would take with it all the money the company put into it,, which was chump change by the way.
Your point is true. However, ASA makes money right now with or without the 900's. I see SKW 900's come back to SLC or maybe LAX and doing Mexico flying. Is there more 900 flying to come with Flagships 900 in the ATL?
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Old 10-25-2007 | 03:49 PM
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Your point is true. However, ASA makes money right now with or without the 900's. I see SKW 900's come back to SLC or maybe LAX and doing Mexico flying. Is there more 900 flying to come with Flagships 900 in the ATL?
you are right. my point wasn't that asa would get any 900's, i am not sure they even will. i was strictly refering to keeping and building business. i mean i thought comair was going to tank a couple months ago and now they have been awarded some 900 flying for delta. its a crazy regional world out there, i just know uncle jerry wan'ts asa to do good,, the share holders demand it.

as far as pinnacle in atlanta yeah things are moving along. we get our first 900 at the end of this month, and starts revenue service on dec 1. so far we are slated for 17 planes i believe, with future growth in slc and lax,, (that last part is my 2 cents, which i believe will happen in the next few years).
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Old 10-25-2007 | 04:13 PM
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The ATR's are not going anywhere anytime soon. We are not getting the 900 any time soon. We may be ugly but we work AND we make money! Delta and Skywest know it. We have the same or more ramp space than Delta. Skywest, ASA, Chataqua, Republic..etc are all Delta's bitc@#s; period. You may be your own "owner" but Delta still tells you where to go.
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Old 10-25-2007 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CaribPilot
Now when this TA becomes concrete some things will obviously change. The ATR's are finally on their way out after three years of saying so, but these seats need to be replaced. Now its been said that Skywest does not like to fly out of ATL which is understandable.

My prediction and other "high-up" employees predictions is that ASA will take deliveries of the 900 and start flying it out of ATL to replace the ATR. If that happens, along with the new contract, ASA will truly be one of the ideal regionals to work for.
Thats provided that you guys vote in the TA....5 very good friends of mine are lineholders at ASA and they arent voting it in....they also told me that the captains they have been flying with are voting it down as well.

voting it down will not be the end of the world for you guys....u shouldnt settle with the first chance u get anyway. The ball is finally in the courts of the pilot groups....management will soon be powerless without us...take a stand for whats right....none of us get paid what we are worth

As far as your 900s go? i saw 3 brand new CRJ-900's parked on the ramp with your new livery in CLT last week....the tail numbers ended in LR.....in case any of you new hires dont know what that means...it means the aircraft are registered to MESA

If you guys do end up getting 900s....you just better make sure u get different payscales to go along with it...and dont back down!!!!
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Old 10-25-2007 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CaribPilot
Now when this TA becomes concrete some things will obviously change. The ATR's are finally on their way out after three years of saying so, but these seats need to be replaced. Now its been said that Skywest does not like to fly out of ATL which is understandable.

My prediction and other "high-up" employees predictions is that ASA will take deliveries of the 900 and start flying it out of ATL to replace the ATR. If that happens, along with the new contract, ASA will truly be one of the ideal regionals to work for.
Why would anyone want to fly a 900 for regional pay rates.. their is nothing regional about a 900...
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Old 10-25-2007 | 06:48 PM
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ASA not getting 900's. Delta has it covered now with Skywest, Mesa, Comair, Pinnacle and Repub's e170's. Sorry. We missed the boat on that. Wrong place, wrong time.

The ATR's will go eventually, and the replacement aircraft will go to bid....and ASA WILL be undercut for the business. Sorry, there goes 16 more airframes.
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