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Old 11-06-2007 | 02:36 PM
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I just don't get it why isn't everyone ticked off more over what has happened to this industry. I tried living on an FO salary at a 121 carrier that paid about 25000 a year with my wife working full time and we were not saving any money. I left after 6 months and went to a 135 charter outfit making 11000 more a year with a lot less BS involved. And my salary is still below industry standards. Come on everyone wake up Housing cost have doubled, gas cost have doubled and our salaries have decreased. My sister in law will graduate college with a nursing degree and immediately make more money then an RJ captain, ridiculous. Well enough ranting I will not fly anyones jet for 19 dollars an hour but to each his own, if this is what you think your worth go ahead.
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Old 11-06-2007 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by lear 31 pilot
I just don't get it why isn't everyone ticked off more over what has happened to this industry. I tried living on an FO salary at a 121 carrier that paid about 25000 a year with my wife working full time and we were not saving any money. I left after 6 months and went to a 135 charter outfit making 11000 more a year with a lot less BS involved. And my salary is still below industry standards. Come on everyone wake up Housing cost have doubled, gas cost have doubled and our salaries have decreased. My sister in law will graduate college with a nursing degree and immediately make more money then an RJ captain, ridiculous. Well enough ranting I will not fly anyones jet for 19 dollars an hour but to each his own, if this is what you think your worth go ahead.
I fly because that is what I have always wanted to do. I know that the industry has really taken some hits in the last few years, but so has every other so-called high-paying job. Oil problems and terrorism have seen to that; but more than that our economy is slowing and foreign markets are out pacing us. The corporate side can be either very very good, or very bad. I'm glad you found a good one. I started this thread because I wanted to get some perspective as to why all the people on the forum seem to be ticked at what they are getting paid. I think we should be paid enough to stay off of government assistance though.
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Old 11-06-2007 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lear 31 pilot
I just don't get it why isn't everyone ticked off more over what has happened to this industry. I tried living on an FO salary at a 121 carrier that paid about 25000 a year with my wife working full time and we were not saving any money. I left after 6 months and went to a 135 charter outfit making 11000 more a year with a lot less BS involved. And my salary is still below industry standards. Come on everyone wake up Housing cost have doubled, gas cost have doubled and our salaries have decreased. My sister in law will graduate college with a nursing degree and immediately make more money then an RJ captain, ridiculous. Well enough ranting I will not fly anyones jet for 19 dollars an hour but to each his own, if this is what you think your worth go ahead.
good for your sister, her pay is minuscule compared to 2nd year UPS, SWA, DAL etc............. the only good thing about your sister being a nurse is the white thigh-highs and the hats, other then that I see no good that can come out of being a nurse
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Old 11-06-2007 | 04:40 PM
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And so it goes, just keep saying to yourself that you will be working for UPS SWA etc, only of few more years of crap pay. Well not everyone is going to make it to those jobs in fact alot of us won't, not for a lack of trying but because their are not many of those jobs. Why not try to make it better at the lower levels, you may be there awhile. I know there are alot of people trying very hard to make things better and I applaud you, we can make things much better.
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Old 11-06-2007 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lear 31 pilot
And so it goes, just keep saying to yourself that you will be working for UPS SWA etc, only of few more years of crap pay. Well not everyone is going to make it to those jobs in fact alot of us won't, not for a lack of trying but because their are not many of those jobs. Why not try to make it better at the lower levels, you may be there awhile. I know there are alot of people trying very hard to make things better and I applaud you, we can make things much better.
I hear ya, Im running for F/O rep here in EWR, well see where it goes from here!
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Old 11-06-2007 | 06:37 PM
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no way they let some monkey from the dirty jerz represent a respected pilot group!!
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Old 12-03-2007 | 10:31 AM
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disregard...
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Old 12-03-2007 | 12:44 PM
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Just a thought, but a feature that could help some out would be a graph of the pay scales over the years. Update the graph every time the pay scale is updated for that particular airline. It could easily be put on the airline profiles on APC.
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Old 12-04-2007 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
the only good thing about your sister being a nurse is the white thigh-highs and the hats, other then that I see no good that can come out of being a nurse
Well, some people seem to be drawn to the whole saving lives thing
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Old 12-04-2007 | 09:07 PM
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Saab. Thanks for the link to that article. It certainly got me down. I've been bumming around watching t.v. ever since, thinking about calling the local college of massage therapy so I could get a "job that pays and helps people" . The one thing that the article oversteps though is that the cost of doing business has really increased since the 70's for the airlines. Fuel costs, and maintenance along with insurance and fees for airport usage must have all increased dramatically since those days.
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