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ghilis101 11-07-2007 08:40 PM

ladder, im sorry i couldnt quite figure out your stance on alpa

tpersuit 11-07-2007 09:27 PM

Since the other one got locked before I could respond...

Hey, don't get on me for taking it too far. I'm actually far from being a Union guy. I am not really a big voter for who they support. I'm just stating that if people are paying for a Lawyer to protect their work rules, they will be upset when someone else doesn't. If every regional was in ALPA that would make negotiating really good since they know what to ask for and every time someone new negotiates they can keep improving our pay and QOL little by little. That's why it would be good.

Again I'm not a union guy so don't misconstrue where i stand.

ghilis101 11-07-2007 09:32 PM

i understand. trust me i really wished this vote had passed. i dont have to use skw jumpseats anymore, but a lot of people do and i just dont see that as being the answer. theyre 2800 pilots, they span the entire country, and denying them jumpseats when 900 of those pilots voted yes on alpa would be unfair.

this will go away soon. people wanted to do this same thing to jetblue a while back but that eventually faded too.

dontsurf 11-07-2007 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by bla bla bla (Post 259391)
And next time you write a contract you might want to include a provision for alter-ego airlines. I feel your pain with tsa, but I’m sure no one thought management would stoop to that level. Live and learn. The solution is not discontinuing contracts, but writing better ones.....

seriously, you should at least look this up or ask someone who was at tsa when the whole gojets thing went down. or heck, read the contract! it's all right there in black and white. that's why i pointed out the fact that they willfully and blatantly violated the contract in creating gojets the way they did. and my point still stands...the contract did nothing whatsoever to make things right. "legally enforceable" is meaningless unless management wants to do the right thing, at least in the current political climate. someone else on here said it's all up to management, what sort of relationship or managerial philosophy they have when dealing with labor. if they have a good concept, then relations will be good, union or no union. if they have a bad concept (e.g. trans states), relations will be bad, union or no union. and obviously, if they're that bad, you better hope you have a union or it would be even worse. but the union can't keep it from being pretty darn bad (again, ask anyone who worked at trans states when that happened).

texaspilot76 11-08-2007 05:55 AM

Hey Gillis101, sorry to change the subject, but I need to make a comment about your profile photo. I believe from my recollection that last Sunday the 'Boys put a 35-17 butt smacking on the Eagles, including a nice Eagle mockery by T.O.

Go Cowboys!

POPA 11-08-2007 06:21 AM

I'd rather cheer for the losing team than be a cowboys fan.

texaspilot76 11-08-2007 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 259608)
Yep, ol' Bruce is a 757 captain now, cool for him and bragging rights to say you are a 75 CA and an internationally known rock star. As well as the front man for one of the best metal bands of all time.

So, that old adage applies then. The guys flying the DC-9 at NW are nothing but regional pilots then?

I took the time to look it up. The DC-9s that Northwest operate have 100 seats or more. They have three different versions, with the smallest having 100 seats.

BoilerUP 11-08-2007 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 259927)
I took the time to look it up. The DC-9s that Northwest operate have 100 seats or more. They have three different versions, with the smallest having 100 seats.

Northwest doesn't fly them anymore, but as recently as 2004 (maybe 05) they flew the Shorty 9, the -10/14/15 series. I think it had somewhere between 68 and 76 seats.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/.../8/0458823.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/photos/.../7/0713782.jpg

bla bla bla 11-08-2007 08:43 AM

News flash.... To me looks like skywest wanted to wait until the union vote was over to get this approved.

http://www.skywest.com/skywinc/inves...hase-NOV07.pdf

Great job skywest guys, like I said yawl should up your stock deduction % because that is were the money is going..... This is the second 5 million shares for the year.

I would bet this money hinged on the union vote. Now that we voted the union out, the board of directors immediately approved the second buy back. And fyi, look at the amount spent on the first buyback as listed on the earnings report is; As of sep 30th skyw has bought back 4.2 million shares at an aveg of 24.94 per share totaling 103.8 million.

So slapp, your raise is in the form of a stock price increase. Hope you own a lot of options or shares…:D

dontsurf 11-08-2007 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by bla bla bla (Post 260010)
News flash....

you sure have a simplistic, unrealistic, and incorrect idea about how corporate finance and (separately) the investment markets work. in addition, you know nothing about the trans states contract. yet you apparently feel qualified to spout opinions on all of these things. i'd be embarrassed if i were you. it's not that hard to read a book, take a class, ask some people who actually know some of these things.


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