couldnt have said it any better myself.


do you really think you can continue to use sapa as a way to organize pilots when clearly its a fraudulent organization which is severely biased based on the conflict of interest of whos funding it?

[quote=MudPupppy;258961]What we found at Colgan after the ALPA vote was not anti-ALPA sentiment but apathy. It's unfortunate so few actually take the time to learn about the business realities around them. "Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything."

So what will the Skywest pilots do now after the courts restrict the student council? [quote]

Again who's gonna take SkyWest to court on SAPA, now that ALPA is gone who cares enough to spend the time and money in court?
As a SkyWest pilot, I don't necessarily like SAPA all that much, but now that ALPA is out, it's all we've got, and at the very least it serves as channel of communication between 2800 pilots and management. I guess I'm saying I'd rather have that than nothing.

Then why so few voted for teamsters, or another union? What union would best serve the Skywest pilots interests? The truck drivers? An inhouse that won't have a budget to get a contract? This is a problem in the regional world, what have YOU done to come up with a solution?

[quote=reelbigchair;258968][quote=MudPupppy;258961]What we found at Colgan after the ALPA vote was not anti-ALPA sentiment but apathy. It's unfortunate so few actually take the time to learn about the business realities around them. "Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything."

So what will the Skywest pilots do now after the courts restrict the student council? It's already in court, the judge hasn't fully ruled on SAPA from the ALPA lawsuit earlier in the year.

You should leave, and as soon as you can, if things aren't working out for you, and the future is so dismal.

Good luck.

So few voted for others because they were intelligent enough to know that it was either ALPA or nothing. They also they weren't running. To make a metaphor of it, it would've been like voting for Ralph Nader. A vote for Ralph was a vote for Bush, much like a vote for teamsters was a vote for ALPA.

I can't imagine ALPA will continue to pursue it in further hearings.

So how many of the NO votes met with the teamsters to discuss an organizing drive? If only 35% were ALPA, and most are Pro union but not pro-ALPA as many of you claim, surely you could have gotten 36% more to get teamsters.

Tony, I think that those 900 folks are the ones who are trying to make skywest better for tomorrow.... I personally believe that a large majority of those who did not vote are apathetic with a minority who are upset with ALPA and unions from past personal circumstances.

Now we must move forward and try to remain united as a pilot group.

You bet they will, by limiting "student councils" they limit managements abilities to fight the union. Like you said, you need to have something, if no student council, either union or nothing.