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madman moe 11-13-2007 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by cbire880 (Post 262818)
Yeah, I base the three years for someone hired today. We are not expect significant additional growth right now. Probably top out around 2300 pilots. We have just under 2100 right now. Junior upgrade this round was around 1250. Assuming average attrition of 30/month, that gives about 28-35 months based on which point of that hiring curve. Guys hired earlier this year will upgrade faster. That huge push from last fall to today really messes up predictions based on current events. The questions is when will the plateau hit.

Not saying you're wrong, but haven't I read somewhere that they said they're anticipating something like 700 new hires in '08?

ToiletDuck 11-13-2007 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by Joeshmoe (Post 262291)
Yes, dead serious. No, not obvious at all. Again, your quote was "The gouge came from the IFR oral guide." Before you decide to short circuit go back and read what you wrote. No big deal though. No harm no foul.

Yes I have and you're still missing the point which is somewhat troubling.

ToiletDuck 11-13-2007 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by madman moe (Post 262915)
Not saying you're wrong, but haven't I read somewhere that they said they're anticipating something like 700 new hires in '08?

madman it hasn't been written. He said it in the quarterly report. You can search here for the link and listen to it.

cbire880 11-14-2007 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by madman moe (Post 262915)
Not saying you're wrong, but haven't I read somewhere that they said they're anticipating something like 700 new hires in '08?

That sounds about right to me. (30/mo attrition = 360 pilots per year plus the growth from 2100 to 2300 = 200 pilots) That's 560 pilots. If attrition spikes to 40/mo then you get 680 pilots. I'm sticking to the 2-3 year estimate(hedging towards 3).

Joeshmoe 11-15-2007 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 262917)
Yes I have and you're still missing the point which is somewhat troubling.

Explain what "point" it is I am missing with it being CRYSTAL clear what you wrote was contradictory???? Quite honestly what is disturbing is that you still can't recognize it, BUT go ahead and try to convince me.

citationdrvrmob 11-19-2007 07:41 PM

Got the call about two hours after leaving the interview. S5, Jan 9, STL. Anyone else starting then? Gouge to follow.

Joeshmoe 11-19-2007 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by citationdrvrmob (Post 266111)
Got the call about two hours after leaving the interview. S5, Jan 9, STL. Anyone else starting then? Gouge to follow.

Atta boy. Congrats.

citationdrvrmob 11-19-2007 08:59 PM

HR made a big push to let us know that due to fleet increases and pilot attrition, they are planning to hire 1,000 pilots in 2008. I think I'm getting on at a great point in time.

HercDriver130 11-19-2007 10:22 PM

Thats good..JOE and I need more guys under us.. .:) since we start next week.....LOL

Now were they think they will find 1000 pilots in this market is anybodys guess......

btwissel 11-20-2007 05:37 AM

welcome aboard. you'll love the 170. it's a lazy pilots dream

oh, and thanks for padding the seniority list beneath me ;)


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