Requirememnts to be a Chief Pilot
11-13-2007 | 01:04 PM
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Well, of our last four chief pilots: three all had military pilot backgrounds to begin with (C-141, P-3, C-130 I think). Three were instructors and check airmen in the training department after having served as First Officers and line Captains, the other was an instructor (but not check airman) and an expert in aircraft performance and airport arrival/departure planning. All four had at least ten years experience on the second floor of the training building as fleet managers, director of performance planning, or some similar staff related duties in addition to instructing and evaluating. One of them was a former Navy squadron commander; another a USAF Academy grad and chief of a USAF C-141 Standardization/Eval section; only one was entirely civil aviation background but he was an exceptionally skilled aviator, instructor, evaluator, and great judge of character. None of these men had a master's degree to my knowledge, but they each had at least 20 years of aviation experience both on the line and in instructing, evaluating, and staff positions before they were placed as Chief Pilot.
Ours is a major airline with about 1500 pilots.
Under my Alaska65 name, are the words "new hire". How do I change that? For what its worth, I am a 58 year old Captain, pretty senior at my airline.
Ours is a major airline with about 1500 pilots.
Under my Alaska65 name, are the words "new hire". How do I change that? For what its worth, I am a 58 year old Captain, pretty senior at my airline.
Thank you very much alaska65
11-13-2007 | 02:25 PM
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This is like knocking on the door of someone who just got screwed by the IRS and asking if him to tell you how to become an auditor.
If you want advice without emotion let me say this: Get hired, go to work in the training center or some other part of the management building and then upgrade. Become personal friends with the important people (Director of Flight Ops, Cheif Pilots, ect.) and then look to make a bubba deal.
11-13-2007 | 07:43 PM
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depending where you are , Chief Pilots eventually becoming Director of Operations or DOs, it s very popular on the 135 Charter side, at the AIrlines you can do the same or move over to a VP of Flight Ops or something like that, all those pos. are M-F and pay well into the 6 figure range , I know several guys in that pos. and let me tell you it s worth it...so most CPs are doing it as a stepping stone or to be home more...
11-13-2007 | 08:17 PM
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Being a Cheif Pilot does not equal being successful... I just don't know how you can come on here and ask how to be someone who makes most of our lives/jobs worse and then get angry when you get the backlash.
This is like knocking on the door of someone who just got screwed by the IRS and asking if him to tell you how to become an auditor.
If you want advice without emotion let me say this: Get hired, go to work in the training center or some other part of the management building and then upgrade. Become personal friends with the important people (Director of Flight Ops, Cheif Pilots, ect.) and then look to make a bubba deal.
This is like knocking on the door of someone who just got screwed by the IRS and asking if him to tell you how to become an auditor.
If you want advice without emotion let me say this: Get hired, go to work in the training center or some other part of the management building and then upgrade. Become personal friends with the important people (Director of Flight Ops, Cheif Pilots, ect.) and then look to make a bubba deal.
And as far as asking people who get crapped on by Management. This is NOT exclusive to Airline pilots. I visit a Law Enforcement message board called leoaffirs.com. Its the same kind of thing. Cops bashing the department heads and the system. SO what I have learned is Not many people are happy with where they are inlife and people just like to complain.
But thank you very much for your advice. I really do appreciate it
11-14-2007 | 01:20 PM
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I don't think being a CP necessarily means you have to be bad. I think it is in how you become a manager and a leader. You can get your pilot group on your side or you can be againts them...your choice. My Dad was a CP at Suthenjets Intranational for a few years and he was very well like by both management and his fellow pilots. He also made sure to treat everyone fairly and he fought for the pilots along with being fair with management.
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