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Old 11-15-2007 | 07:30 AM
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I mispell words onhere because I type fast, not because I cant spell.
Clearly, you're also unable to type quickly and accurately.
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Old 11-15-2007 | 08:46 AM
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this is what makes a bad boss. Someone that defines THEIR job as success over others. Who clearly WANTS to be over people, regardless of money made. Forget a 12 year 747 Capt. would make more, I need to be over him. Power is what I need. THAT is the sign of a bad boss who will live in a job hated. I personally would HATE to be hated by the same people you sat with on long flights, who you spent 10-20 years as friends. Pilots need to stick together. If bossing around the people you once called friends so to can feel empowered well then you have just met the definition of a bad boss.

Back on to your question, I would bet its just like any job. You can upgrade only so far until butt kissing and being someones little pet is needed. Find this point and switch friends.......THATS how you get to the level of VP, CP, etc.
That pretty much sums up what i think a lot of people are viewing you as 24G. Well written. Kudos for serving in the military but i think civilian life may be difficult if you keep the same mentality of "i must be the leader". Go to work, go home and enjoy your family. Work should be just whatever pays the bills and affords you a comfortable lifestyle. Looking down on people who you think have less ambition then yourself is going to hurt you in the long run.
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Old 11-15-2007 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by N6724G
How does one become a Chief Pilot at an airline? Do you have to have a Masters degree in business or something? This is a serious question so please only serious responses. I have never been one to sit and stay at one level. If I do become an airline pilot I dont jst want to fly for 20 to 30 years.
Doesn’t everybody want to be successful? MOTO. Anyway, here’s my two cents worth on your question about how one becomes a Chief Pilot.
At my airline, it seems that management RECRUITS management. That is, when there is an opening, someone from management approaches YOU and asks you to submit a resume. If you approach your job as if becoming a Chief Pilot is your goal, I think you’ll find, as others have already stated in this thread, that you’ll quickly be labeled as a management butt kisser…not a good place to be. You can want the job, but you have to act like it’s no big deal. Going the training and standards path is a good choice (also already mentioned in this thread) because it puts you in a small group of dedicated individuals who are demonstrating that they are willing to do a necessary job, for little extra benefit, simply because it needs to be done and they want to contribute to the bigger picture. That kinda sounds like what you intended by your remark about “not wanting to stay at one level.”

I think you'll find the job of just being a good (not just adequate) Captain pretty challenging.

So, did I help, or just confuse you more?
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Old 11-15-2007 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by N6724G
...I mentor to youths and I tell them to always aim high and follow their dreams and never settle for anything less...
I need a mentor...
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Old 11-15-2007 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by N6724G
I mentor to youths and I tell them to always aim high and follow their dreams and never settle for anything less.
My parents told me I could be anything I wanted, so I became an a-hole!
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Old 11-15-2007 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
At CHQ he gets a credit of 100hrs per month at his current pay scale and must stay current in the aircraft.
So how long does it usually take a chief pilot to get where he is?
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Old 11-15-2007 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by N6724G
Well, I dont drink, so I dont know, and like I said before. All my friends arent neccessarily my coworkers. i have a life outside of my job. You should not live to please others and make them like you. You should live to support your family. When you get over 30 years old, you will realize that
If you're one of those people who don't give a crud about what other people think of you...well expect to have no friends at work. That is the type of guy I will not go and have a drink with...or heck - even socialize with at all unless it is deemed completely, 100% necessary.

There is more to life than being succesfull on the Job. IMHO it's how you get there, not how far. You don't have to be the top-dog everywhere you go...Personally, I find it more fulfilling and satisfying to have good relationships with those I know and love...as well as those I work with.

Best of luck - with such an anti-social attitude you may need it.
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Old 11-15-2007 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by subicpilot
I think you’ll find, as others have already stated in this thread, that you’ll quickly be labeled as a management butt kisser…not a good place to be. You can want the job, but you have to act like it’s no big deal.
Kind of like trying to get laid, then...
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Old 11-15-2007 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by N0315
this is what makes a bad boss. Someone that defines THEIR job as success over others. Who clearly WANTS to be over people, reguardless of money made. Forget a 12 year 747 Capt. would make more, I need to be over him. Power is what I need. THAT is the sign of a bad boss who will live in a job hated. I personally would HATE to be hated by the same people you sat with on long flights, who you spent 10-20 years as friends. Pilots need to stick together. If bossing around the people you once called friends so to can feel impowered well then you have just met the definition of a bad boss.

Back on to your question, I would bet its just like any job. You can upgrade only so far until butt kissing and being someones little pet is needed. Find this point and switch friends.......THATS how you get to the level of VP, CP, etc.
Words of wisdom - every syllable!!
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Old 11-15-2007 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
Kind of like trying to get laid, then...
Exactly!
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