Requirememnts to be a Chief Pilot
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this is what makes a bad boss. Someone that defines THEIR job as success over others. Who clearly WANTS to be over people, regardless of money made. Forget a 12 year 747 Capt. would make more, I need to be over him. Power is what I need. THAT is the sign of a bad boss who will live in a job hated. I personally would HATE to be hated by the same people you sat with on long flights, who you spent 10-20 years as friends. Pilots need to stick together. If bossing around the people you once called friends so to can feel empowered well then you have just met the definition of a bad boss.
Back on to your question, I would bet its just like any job. You can upgrade only so far until butt kissing and being someones little pet is needed. Find this point and switch friends.......THATS how you get to the level of VP, CP, etc.
Back on to your question, I would bet its just like any job. You can upgrade only so far until butt kissing and being someones little pet is needed. Find this point and switch friends.......THATS how you get to the level of VP, CP, etc.
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How does one become a Chief Pilot at an airline? Do you have to have a Masters degree in business or something? This is a serious question so please only serious responses. I have never been one to sit and stay at one level. If I do become an airline pilot I dont jst want to fly for 20 to 30 years.
At my airline, it seems that management RECRUITS management. That is, when there is an opening, someone from management approaches YOU and asks you to submit a resume. If you approach your job as if becoming a Chief Pilot is your goal, I think you’ll find, as others have already stated in this thread, that you’ll quickly be labeled as a management butt kisser…not a good place to be. You can want the job, but you have to act like it’s no big deal. Going the training and standards path is a good choice (also already mentioned in this thread) because it puts you in a small group of dedicated individuals who are demonstrating that they are willing to do a necessary job, for little extra benefit, simply because it needs to be done and they want to contribute to the bigger picture. That kinda sounds like what you intended by your remark about “not wanting to stay at one level.”
I think you'll find the job of just being a good (not just adequate) Captain pretty challenging.
So, did I help, or just confuse you more?
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Well, I dont drink, so I dont know, and like I said before. All my friends arent neccessarily my coworkers. i have a life outside of my job. You should not live to please others and make them like you. You should live to support your family. When you get over 30 years old, you will realize that
There is more to life than being succesfull on the Job. IMHO it's how you get there, not how far. You don't have to be the top-dog everywhere you go...Personally, I find it more fulfilling and satisfying to have good relationships with those I know and love...as well as those I work with.
Best of luck - with such an anti-social attitude you may need it.
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this is what makes a bad boss. Someone that defines THEIR job as success over others. Who clearly WANTS to be over people, reguardless of money made. Forget a 12 year 747 Capt. would make more, I need to be over him. Power is what I need. THAT is the sign of a bad boss who will live in a job hated. I personally would HATE to be hated by the same people you sat with on long flights, who you spent 10-20 years as friends. Pilots need to stick together. If bossing around the people you once called friends so to can feel impowered well then you have just met the definition of a bad boss.
Back on to your question, I would bet its just like any job. You can upgrade only so far until butt kissing and being someones little pet is needed. Find this point and switch friends.......THATS how you get to the level of VP, CP, etc.
Back on to your question, I would bet its just like any job. You can upgrade only so far until butt kissing and being someones little pet is needed. Find this point and switch friends.......THATS how you get to the level of VP, CP, etc.
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