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JetJock16 12-10-2007 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Deez340 (Post 276421)
I certainly could be wrong, but if I recall correctly I thought it was a % guarantee not a block hour guarantee. 85% of Delta feed in ATL had to be done by ASA, and Skywest was guaranteed a certain percentage of all DAL feed. As long as that percentage holds I think they can reduce the flying as necessary. Anywho, 35 RJ's are being removed from Delta service. The question is where. Also, they can't just add more 900's as Delta's scope clause regulates that. Plus they would have to be in the 76 seat configuration.

Could be, I need to go back in check. Personally I thought the ASA flying was only %age based (85%) in ALT for feeder departures, although it does make sense.

As for the CR9's, yes your scope does restrict it to 76 seats but 2 CR9's are better than 3 CR2's. No JSJ here, just basic numbers.

HercDriver130 12-10-2007 02:40 PM

S5 will be flying E175's with FC seating starting mid 08 out of ATL.

meritflyer 12-11-2007 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by JetJock16 (Post 276408)
IMO, they’re probably going to cut less profitable CR2 (ASA) routes and add more profitable CR9 (SKW) routes.

Yay!!! More CRJ900's flying around at CRJ700 rates!! It's easy to do when SKYW charges similar rates for 900 flying when compared to ASA's -200 and -700 rates.

Way to undercut your ASA brothers SKYW!!

JoeyMeatballs 12-11-2007 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by meritflyer (Post 277101)
Yay!!! More CRJ900's flying around at CRJ700 rates!! It's easy to do when SKYW charges similar rates for 900 flying when compared to ASA's -200 and -700 rates.

Way to undercut your ASA brothers SKYW!!

Does this really surprise you? Its the only way for a regional to grow nowadays, sad but true.................

meritflyer 12-11-2007 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 277125)
Does this really surprise you? Its the only way for a regional to grow nowadays, sad but true.................

Nope. It doesn't surprise me. It is however starting to make sense why every ASA guy I run into hates SKYW. It's good to see SKYW ride the coat tails of ASA with respect to contract negotiated items. Glad to see SKYW put the bar so high on their 900's as well. Keeps the industry real healthy. [sarcasm]

Spooledup 12-11-2007 11:48 AM

To think that one pilot group intentionally votes in a contract to undercut the rates of another airline is not accurate. Each pilot group is dealing with a different situation and (usually) different management under different circumstances and gets the most that they can at that time as determined by a majority of the pilot group. It aggravates me when someone I'm flying with says something like "There's (airline X) stealing our flying" and directing their anger towards the pilots when the pilots have absolutely nothing to do with what routes and for whom they fly.

JetJock16 12-12-2007 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by meritflyer (Post 277101)
Yay!!! More CRJ900's flying around at CRJ700 rates!! It's easy to do when SKYW charges similar rates for 900 flying when compared to ASA's -200 and -700 rates.

Way to undercut your ASA brothers SKYW!!

Buddy, you've got issues! Are you always this angry, at home, at work? Believe me it's not worth it but I'm sure this is your first and only professional career so I’m not expecting you to understand. I worry about my family, their future and health, not getting another $2/hr out of my company or undercutting another carrier! Don't get me wrong, we don't get paid what we're worth but stressing over it's a waist of time. I’ll do what I can when the time is right but when you’re part of a labor group one voice is easily drowned out by the majority; you should know this. After a lengthy negotiation process the company will pay it's labor groups what they are willing and able to pay them. I'm not anti-union (voted Yes for ALPA) and working for a non-union career doesn't make me a bad guy; being a bad father, husband, brother or son........now that’s a different story. So ridicule me for my beliefs, it seems to be the only think you’re really good at.

BTW, why would SKYW Inc try to undercut SKYW Inc? Now that doesn't make sense! Seeing that until ASA’s new TA goes into effect the SKW pilot group makes/made more in total compensation than the ASA pilot group does/did. Do you actually think that we at SKW sit around thinking about ways to screw ASA? Please, wake up, we’re all company now. Other pilot groups are so fed up with their current situation that they have to point they're fingers at us, a happy pilot group. I guess misery loves company and hates the happy. But we’re traitors right? Last I checked I never crossed a pick line or worked for Freedom A or GoJet. Ahhhhh but we are non-union?


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