Whats the Better Regional?
#11
I am going to take a lot of flak for this nomination, but here goes.
I think Mesa should possibly be viewed as one of the most stable from a career standpoint; despite their poor pay and shortcomings.
I think Mesa should possibly be viewed as one of the most stable from a career standpoint; despite their poor pay and shortcomings.
#14
SkyWest
SkyWest..for several reasons...
1) Pilots are realizing this may be a permenant place for them and there is a genuine drive to make it one of the great airlines
2) People are generally happy because of reason # 1. People here like each other. Pilots, Mx, Flight Atndnts, CSRs and usually management.
3) It's safe. Safe equipment, safe work rules and (relatively) safe future.
Notice I didn't mention pay..cause it's low. Almost everyone here wanted to be at FedEx or UA or AA or someplace else back before 9/11. But the reality is different now and the pilots here know we are in chrage of our own future. We still have a lot of KoolAid drinkers on the property but they are coming around.
Do you want 50k - 60k and be happy or 60-70k at another airline and be moaning? How about 150K and be moaning....where do I sign?
1) Pilots are realizing this may be a permenant place for them and there is a genuine drive to make it one of the great airlines
2) People are generally happy because of reason # 1. People here like each other. Pilots, Mx, Flight Atndnts, CSRs and usually management.
3) It's safe. Safe equipment, safe work rules and (relatively) safe future.
Notice I didn't mention pay..cause it's low. Almost everyone here wanted to be at FedEx or UA or AA or someplace else back before 9/11. But the reality is different now and the pilots here know we are in chrage of our own future. We still have a lot of KoolAid drinkers on the property but they are coming around.
Do you want 50k - 60k and be happy or 60-70k at another airline and be moaning? How about 150K and be moaning....where do I sign?
#15
To ATPwannabe.
The short answer is, most really don't have any ties to the larger carrier aside from the paint on the side of the airplane and the flight number. They are simply a contracted air carrier that is basically a form of outsorcing for lower yeild routes. With a few exceptions, almost all of the regionals are operating codeshares for a number of different airlines at the same time. The market is also saturated with pilots willing to make next to nothing (or pay to work) simply to get the experience or because they have "SJS" as the joke goes on another thread. The supply far outweighs the demand.
That really wasn't a very short answer was it?
The short answer is, most really don't have any ties to the larger carrier aside from the paint on the side of the airplane and the flight number. They are simply a contracted air carrier that is basically a form of outsorcing for lower yeild routes. With a few exceptions, almost all of the regionals are operating codeshares for a number of different airlines at the same time. The market is also saturated with pilots willing to make next to nothing (or pay to work) simply to get the experience or because they have "SJS" as the joke goes on another thread. The supply far outweighs the demand.
That really wasn't a very short answer was it?
#16
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Wow, slow down with the "losing a lot of RJs" stuff. ExpressJet and CAL have 9 months to come up with a plan of action here. It will be at least a year before the first jet is taken off line, and even if they are, ExpressJet has the rights to them before CAL. Negotiations havn't even started yet. This may be the best thing to ever happen to EXJ. They still plan on hiring 300 more before may and then 12 a month for attrition after that. I may only have a few weeks with the company, but so far all my time has been with the training dept., which gives me a look into the hiring and workings of the company. So far, everyday, a managment pilot has talked to us in class, and that topic is always first to come up. On my first day the COO spoke to the new hire class, and he was firm in his belief that EXJ will always be on top.
#18
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: Office Chair
Posts: 629
Yummy...Kool-Aid! What, do you think management is going to come into a new hire class with the doom and gloom speech? And by the way, passing through the training department with the "deer in the headlights" look on your face for 2 months doesn't give you any insight into the inner workings of your company. It's amazing to me that you can be an expert on the subject when your entire airline career is a whopping 2 weeks old. Don't worry though...the Kool-Aid will wear off.
Sorry to be so harsh, but someone had to b-slap you back to reality.
Sorry to be so harsh, but someone had to b-slap you back to reality.
Last edited by FLYBOYMATTHEW; 01-09-2006 at 03:57 PM.
#19
Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
Sorry to be so harsh, but someone had to b-slap you back to reality.
There is a difference from a b-slap and just being a b. I dont mean to single you out a lot of people on here are like that. We are all adults. lets be respectful. State your point and lets all just get along.
#20
To nominate a good regional to work for....
......may I suggest Republic/Shuttle America/Chautauqua. Now that the two outstanding integration issues have been resolved, and that 145 new hire classes ad 170 new hire classes are ramping back up, it seems all the ducks are close to being in a row. Pay is on par with other regionals, hiring is ongoing, and the contract is pretty good for a company that could hardly spell the word jet 5 years ago. The contract is up for renewal in '07, and I think a reasonable (read "kinda small") pay raise is on tap, along with some fine tuning of work rules that were more applicable to prop hopping than jet operations. Also, the 170 program is beginning to mature and take shape, and at the same time the 70 seat market for jets is beginning to gear up for modest growth. ReShuttlauqua has put itself in a good position for the upcoming years, and could be one of the most stable regional rides out there. give it some thought.
......may I suggest Republic/Shuttle America/Chautauqua. Now that the two outstanding integration issues have been resolved, and that 145 new hire classes ad 170 new hire classes are ramping back up, it seems all the ducks are close to being in a row. Pay is on par with other regionals, hiring is ongoing, and the contract is pretty good for a company that could hardly spell the word jet 5 years ago. The contract is up for renewal in '07, and I think a reasonable (read "kinda small") pay raise is on tap, along with some fine tuning of work rules that were more applicable to prop hopping than jet operations. Also, the 170 program is beginning to mature and take shape, and at the same time the 70 seat market for jets is beginning to gear up for modest growth. ReShuttlauqua has put itself in a good position for the upcoming years, and could be one of the most stable regional rides out there. give it some thought.
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