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Old 12-23-2007 | 05:47 PM
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What happens if everybody votes "no" and management says, "T.S. Deal with it?"

Not union flame, just a legit question. I'm curious as to how that works over there.
SAPA will go back to mgmt and try to work on something better but just like with a union there are no guarantees of getting anything done.
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Old 12-23-2007 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilotpip
What happens if everybody votes "no" and management says, "T.S. Deal with it?"

Not union flame, just a legit question. I'm curious as to how that works over there.
SAPA will go back to the bargaining table. This has happened before and Mgmnt has proven they will negotiate until we reach an agreement. Remember that we just accepted a new pay policy back in 2006 (that policy was not the first, it was voted down until it reached its final form) and is good through 2011. Mgmnt has chosen to reward us for voting down ALPA and to increase company moral (Kool-Aid Drinking) because we're in negotiations for more flying. People may choose to not believe it but it has nothing to do with ASA. Yes SAPA may be using ASA’s new TA, as well as many others, to negotiate but that’s end their influence.

Ask yourself why Mgmnt would care to increase our pay if we just accepted a policy good through 2011 and moral is high enough to vote down ALPA. Why would they pay us more if they don't have to? We're happy so why? Have you ever heard of an airline choosing to increase their pilots pay after they’ve approved a new TA. Regardless Mgmnt has done a great job over the past 35 years of keeping moral and pay high, that's why we trust them.

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Old 12-23-2007 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowfever
Horizon rates for the 700? I doubt it.
Flat rates, yes. Total compensation, we're closer than you think.
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Old 12-23-2007 | 06:41 PM
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Thanks for the responses guys.
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Old 12-23-2007 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilotpip
What happens if everybody votes "no" and management says, "T.S. Deal with it?"

Not union flame, just a legit question. I'm curious as to how that works over there.
That's pretty much how it goes.
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Old 12-23-2007 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
Yes but when you add the rest of our total compensation to it SKW pilots will have an industry leading pay & QOL package.

Jet Jock, you are still flying for less than everyone else in the industry. Most everyone, especially ASA, have better provisions than you. The pilots at ASA put their stuff together and got a great contract. Now you will be happy and ride their shirtails. You would make me sick, but I see the #'s, and you lose.
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Old 12-23-2007 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JetJock16
Flat rates, yes. Total compensation, we're closer than you think.
You are out there!!!
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Old 12-23-2007 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BALZAHARI
Jet Jock, you are still flying for less than everyone else in the industry. Most everyone, especially ASA, have better provisions than you. The pilots at ASA put their stuff together and got a great contract. Now you will be happy and ride their shirtails. You would make me sick, but I see the #'s, and you lose.
What?!?! Dude get your facts straight, please!
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Old 12-23-2007 | 10:21 PM
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1% less than ASA's contract. Any new flying picked up by Skywest Inc will go to Skywest Airlines because their rates will be lower than ASA's. That's what I've been told is the best the company will give.
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Old 12-23-2007 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BALZAHARI
Jet Jock, you are still flying for less than everyone else in the industry.

The very simple facts, that are easy to find, don't support this statement. Unless, of course, you define "the industry" different than everybody else.


Most everyone, especially ASA, have better provisions than you.

I'm not sure the actual ASA pilots we have at SkyWest would agree with you.

There are few provisions, however, that I would agree with you on. ASA requires 250 hours for a new hire at $23-ish /hr. SkyWest still requires 1000 hours, at $19.25 /hr.

I don't care to compete with the former; the latter will be resolved within the next month.


The pilots at ASA put their stuff together and got a great contract. Now you will be happy and ride their shirtails. You would make me sick, but I see the #'s, and you lose.

Might wanna go see a doctor if you think you're getting sick. Also, you might brush up on your basic math skills, while you're at it.

SKW pilots are not negotiating a new contract, by the way. Just (primarily) pay issues that the new ASA contract wouldn't even consider mid term.

Finally, I've got to say that there is no reason that we shouldn't be at the front of the pack in EVERY category amongst our regional peers and AT LEAST equal to our sister company.

I believe we'll meet that challenge in the coming weeks.
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